Rebuild Strategy (or WE WANT LINS!)
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Wow. You’re real confident in a Center who can’t rebound, hit 3s, or play Consistent D.
I hope WCS is not the future starter. He’s marginally better than Jason Thompson.
I am afraid the Kings are going to break the bank for WCS. He’s not worth more than 10-12/yr
If the Kings Draft Ayton or Bagley, WCS can come off the bench or be traded.
Trill is improving. I still hate how inconsistent he is, and when he's featured on offense it's always an adventure, but he's starting to put it together.
If we indeed luck out and use a top pick on one of this draft's premier bigs, it will be interesting to see where Willie ends up in the bigman pecking order, especially with Giles supposedly being the truth.
I think it's too early to have this conversation though. And I think WCS is quite a bit better than JT, myself (however dubious that honor might be).
If we indeed luck out and use a top pick on one of this draft's premier bigs, it will be interesting to see where Willie ends up in the bigman pecking order, especially with Giles supposedly being the truth.
I think it's too early to have this conversation though. And I think WCS is quite a bit better than JT, myself (however dubious that honor might be).
One of my hot-button issues with this board for several years was the posters who insisted that Jason Thompson was a really good player. NOT! I posted and counter-posted about him many times and I never believed for a second that he was who the Thompson apologists thought he was. So when you say WCS is only marginally better than JT, methinks you're a jokester. When we finally got rid of him and he couldn't find any other NBA team to take him, the writing was on the wall. Oh wait, it had been there the whole time!
In a few years Willie will be in his prime, and I believe he is going to be a damn fine player. His passing vision and execution gets better and better. He excels at switching onto any position and holding his own and then some. If we, as a team, learn to rotate on switches like a well oiled machine his supposed defensive lapses will be all but eliminated. He shows more confidence with his jumper every game and appears to be working on extending beyond the three point line. His ability to sprint down the court like no other 7 footer in the league is perfect for the current NBA meta. Instead of trying to shoehorn Willie into some preconceived role, let him be himself. There haven't been any other bigs like him.
A lot of fans like to point to Willie's shot-blocking as a sign of his lack of rim protection. When you watch him during a game it is amazing how many times he helps to stop penetration into the lane. This doesn't show up in any stats, but I find it interesting that the Kings gave up 50 pts in the paint to the Spurs.
My memory is hazy but I thought the nicest things we said about him were that he'd make a fine backup if this team ever had a credible front line. I don't recall even his biggest fans suggesting he was a starting caliber player on a playoff team.
As for the other poster's hot take, WCS clearly has a place in the league. He has improved and shows a much better attitude than JT ever did. NBA salaries are still finding equilibrium and I'm not sure what the proper value on a guy like WCS is, but I'm sure someone will pay over market as is the trend any time a free agent enters the market. Regardless of what his limitations are there is certainly one of 29 other GMs out there that will overpay if we don't.
As for the other poster's hot take, WCS clearly has a place in the league. He has improved and shows a much better attitude than JT ever did. NBA salaries are still finding equilibrium and I'm not sure what the proper value on a guy like WCS is, but I'm sure someone will pay over market as is the trend any time a free agent enters the market. Regardless of what his limitations are there is certainly one of 29 other GMs out there that will overpay if we don't.
JT as a poor man's Webber? I think some optimists might have made that comparison after he dropped 20/10 in his first NBA game, but I think we all came down to earth after his rookie season.
I was a diehard JT apologist. But I was defending his abilities as a decent roleplayer, nothing more.
...Also more of a positive impact than Landry, but that wasn't saying much. Landry was so terrible, we won't have a pick next year.
I was a diehard JT apologist. But I was defending his abilities as a decent roleplayer, nothing more.
...Also more of a positive impact than Landry, but that wasn't saying much. Landry was so terrible, we won't have a pick next year.
You mean like what happened last year when we went 7-9 for the last 16 games and still went with vets much of the time?
At the ASB, take the King's draft position and add 4 to it and that's where I feel we'll end up. The argument that we still have time to tank or catch the other teams and that it's too early to tell means nothing to me because we've already seen that's not how they operate.
At the ASB, take the King's draft position and add 4 to it and that's where I feel we'll end up. The argument that we still have time to tank or catch the other teams and that it's too early to tell means nothing to me because we've already seen that's not how they operate.
I've posted Carmichael Dave's tweet in two different threads so I won't repeat it here, especially since I've promised not to participate in this thread. 
BUT, we all of a sudden have a bench full of rookies with questionable injuries and we play our veterans MAJOR minutes. Gee, I wonder why that could be? Hrm, let me think... Sitting rookies, showcasing veterans. Why would Elston Turner (with the real head coach conveniently already sent home) do that? Why, why, why?????
Some of you (speaking in general terms here) need to take a deep breath and relax and THINK for a minute. Seriously.
BUT, we all of a sudden have a bench full of rookies with questionable injuries and we play our veterans MAJOR minutes. Gee, I wonder why that could be? Hrm, let me think... Sitting rookies, showcasing veterans. Why would Elston Turner (with the real head coach conveniently already sent home) do that? Why, why, why?????
Some of you (speaking in general terms here) need to take a deep breath and relax and THINK for a minute. Seriously.
Sorry VF21, some of us aren't as eager to give this franchise the benefit of the doubt as you are. A decade and a half of **** ups from every sorry FO assembled by the Maloofs or Vivek has given us pause on the optimism.
However, showcasing the vets pre deadline would make sense if this were a competently run operation. Perhaps Vlade has learned from his mistake of signing said vets in the first place?
Deadline is coming up, and I'd be happy to eat crow on this one.
However, showcasing the vets pre deadline would make sense if this were a competently run operation. Perhaps Vlade has learned from his mistake of signing said vets in the first place?
Deadline is coming up, and I'd be happy to eat crow on this one.
Fox has a bruised leg and lingering abdominal pain. I'm all for giving the kids minutes but not at the point where its endangering their longterm health (heck Bogie's pretty much been playing nonstop for an entire year so I even appreciate the minute management there).
Considering how awful our vets have been for most of the season, wouldn't having them play a heavy minute load actually be the best way to tank going forward?
Considering how awful our vets have been for most of the season, wouldn't having them play a heavy minute load actually be the best way to tank going forward?
I've posted Carmichael Dave's tweet in two different threads so I won't repeat it here, especially since I've promised not to participate in this thread.
BUT, we all of a sudden have a bench full of rookies with questionable injuries and we play our veterans MAJOR minutes. Gee, I wonder why that could be? Hrm, let me think... Sitting rookies, showcasing veterans. Why would Elston Turner (with the real head coach conveniently already sent home) do that? Why, why, why?????
Some of you (speaking in general terms here) need to take a deep breath and relax and THINK for a minute. Seriously.
BUT, we all of a sudden have a bench full of rookies with questionable injuries and we play our veterans MAJOR minutes. Gee, I wonder why that could be? Hrm, let me think... Sitting rookies, showcasing veterans. Why would Elston Turner (with the real head coach conveniently already sent home) do that? Why, why, why?????
Some of you (speaking in general terms here) need to take a deep breath and relax and THINK for a minute. Seriously.
They better trade some of these vets. These wins are a complete joke if the young guns aren't getting the reps on the floor in crunch time to learn how to win games. But this is so Kangz that I can't really be that mad. Kangz history tells me that this is real probability:
And that the Kings will trade it for #14 and #21 because Kangz.
And that the Kings will trade it for #14 and #21 because Kangz.
I get playing ZBo and Koufos more than usual with Skal and WCS out but there's no excuse for playing the vets as much as Elston Turner did. He was going for the win over development, plain and simple.
JJ and Bogie with 18min a piece. Hield with 22min. Papa with 11min.
Meanwhile KK at 37. ZBo 32. Temple 32. Hill played 28 (one more min than Fox in a game where Fox played well).
Never thought I'd say this but I can't wait for Joerger to take over the rotations again.
JJ and Bogie with 18min a piece. Hield with 22min. Papa with 11min.
Meanwhile KK at 37. ZBo 32. Temple 32. Hill played 28 (one more min than Fox in a game where Fox played well).
Never thought I'd say this but I can't wait for Joerger to take over the rotations again.