Kings do not pick up Giles and Caleb team options for next year!
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I have to assume the Kings got multiple opinions on his knees that all determined the same thing; they’re shot. No matter how dumb the FO seems sometimes, they would not cut ties with a player they spent so much time and resources on for $4mil. We have to remember, Bagley is injury prone until he proves otherwise, so the Kings can’t risk losing talent and depth over such a small amount of coin. He has zero trade value. If he plays this year and looks decent then I will have no explanation.
Correct, but let's say he's going to miss half the season so we make a backroom deal where he takes two years at the base pay and then we take care of him after. That's what I was getting at. It doesn't really make any sense for the Kings though unless it gave us a quick window to make one extra move.
I'm thinking there's also a good chance he gets moved in part of a deal for Bogs.
I'm thinking there's also a good chance he gets moved in part of a deal for Bogs.
Apparently the Warriors did the same thing with Looney. They declined his fourth-year option but re-signed him the next summer (2018). Then, this past summer, they re-signed him again on a longer-term, larger deal. So, I guess it's not certain that Giles is a goner. But it does seem like they aren't very confident in him being worth more than $4 million next season, which certainly is not where we hoped things would be.
Is there a cap reason for doing this, like does it circumvent the rules in year 5 with qualifying offers and the like when dealing with restricted FAs?
Vlade is not above criticism for his draft choices but I actually think that even if the signings we have made haven't lit the world on fire, the terms and structure of the deals are almost always team friendly (declining, team options, etc etc).
So while initial reaction is this is stupid, maybe there is a good reason?
Vlade is not above criticism for his draft choices but I actually think that even if the signings we have made haven't lit the world on fire, the terms and structure of the deals are almost always team friendly (declining, team options, etc etc).
So while initial reaction is this is stupid, maybe there is a good reason?
Now that I've cooled off a bit, declining Giles at 4 million vs the minimum makes some sense.
He is likely the 5th big this year, and has been injured for essentially the last 6 years. He has the same amount of in game experience as someone who graduated hs.
The 3rd and 4th year options are decent raises, and Giles has yet to show much return on their 3 years of investment. I don't like it, but it makes business sense even if they still have hopes for him.
He is likely the 5th big this year, and has been injured for essentially the last 6 years. He has the same amount of in game experience as someone who graduated hs.
The 3rd and 4th year options are decent raises, and Giles has yet to show much return on their 3 years of investment. I don't like it, but it makes business sense even if they still have hopes for him.
Maybe it allows him to sign a pre-contract in Europe come January, I don’t know. I know that’s a thing in soccer. I just know it’s not due to a cap problem, per se. The one guy that has been absolutely elite at his job this decade is Catanella. That guy is a wizard. Whatever is the plan with Harry, it’s not a cap problem.
That's the rub. We have a total cap wizard so maybe there really is something clever going on here. Or maybe the team is a dumpster fire and has been lying to us about Giles for most of the year now and we have another blown draft pick on our hands, and in this case there was actually talent on the board for a change.
The reality is we all just need to relax and be patient but it's hard to do when you are 0-5, your top draft pick is injured for another 3-5 weeks and the remaining core of your team suddenly looks like trash.
The reality is we all just need to relax and be patient but it's hard to do when you are 0-5, your top draft pick is injured for another 3-5 weeks and the remaining core of your team suddenly looks like trash.
