Following Potential *2024* Draftees

[The_Jamal]

yeah kind of like we heard Davion could guard the 3 after Monte drafted him? Not to mention Dort has long players around him.

So you think Lu Dort's success as a versatile mult-position defender is because he has long players around him? Really?

What does one off-hand comment Monte made (that's never played out on the court btw, even though you love to bring this up to take digs at Monte), have to do with Iowa thinking Carter could guard up like Dort can? Maybe respond with why you think he can't? That'd actually be a productive discussion.

 

[The_Jamal]

if we draft Carter I have 100 charity bet we are back in the lottery next year and I pay my bets.

Booked.

Stipulation: Carter has to be in the rotation, or this bet is pointless. 42 games minimum, 12 MPG.

 

[The_Jamal]

To be fair, Carter did measure with a longer wingspan than Ellis (6’8.75” vs. 6’8.5”) so let’s not pretend like “length” is only defined by standing reach.

It’s also worth noting that Carter’s vertical was much better than what Ellis posted which I think is a complementary data point to consider when looking at standing reach.

For example, Carter measured with a 8’2” standing reach, 35” standing vertical, and 42” max vertical. That means at a standstill, Carter’s hand can get up to 11’1” to contest a shot, and with a running start, Carter’s hand can get up to 11’8” to contest a shot.

Now let’s consider Keon who measured with a 8’6” standing reach, 28” standing vertical, and 35.5” max vertical. That means at a standstill, Keon’s hand can get up to 10’10” to contest a shot, and with a running start, Keon’s hand can get up to 11’5.5”.

As you can see, Carter can technically contest shots at a higher point than Ellis which helps negate the difference in standing reach while at the same time having a longer wingspan which is more important for deflections, playing the passing lanes, stripping players, disrupting ball handlers, etc.

Then you add to the fact that Carter has been an excellent rebounder for his position in college and will likely be a better rebounder than Ellis and it makes his shorter height/standing reach) less of an issue.

Then you add to the fact that Carter weighed in 26 lbs heavier than Ellis and it helps negate that height that much more as it allows him to bang with stronger players without being moved off of his spot.

But despite Carter having 26 lbs on Ellis, his agility/quickness/speed tests were better as well:

Lane Agility
Devin Carter = 10.63 sec
Keon Ellis = 10.87 sec

Shuttle Run
Devin Carter = 2.90 sec
Keon Ellis = 3.02 sec

3/4 Sprint
Devin Carter = 2.87 sec
Keon Ellis = 3.18 sec


So what do we potentially have in Carter? A defender who is quicker, faster, and stronger than Ellis who technically can contest shots at a higher point in the air than Ellis and will very likely be a better rebounder than Ellis. Now does that mean that Carter will be the better player or defender? Of course not. But I wouldn’t be surprised (and that’s coming from a guy that loves Ellis).

You know what they say, having 2 Keon Ellis's is never a good thing because they're 6'3

 

[SacTownKid]

You know what they say, having 2 Keon Ellis's is never a good thing because they're 6'3

And the thing is it's like, they are both actually considered to have good length anyway. I mean, I can see shying away from one of the G's with more PG sized length like Mccain or Sheppard but Carter isn't that. No, he's not a 6'8" wing, but dudes far from a stub haha.