Derrick Williams

#1
Hi, I'm a Knicks fan here who has just recieved news that Derrick Williams has signed with us. I don't know a lot about this guy but Ive heard he is a low IQ player who plays bad defense, but has a lot of talent offensively? Is this true? Can you anyone fill me in about this player? Thanks.
 

Capt. Factorial

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#3
A lot of people around here were very down on Williams. I don't think he really lived down to the expectations, but he's not an amazing package all told.

He's very athletic and you'll get some awesome lob dunks with him, and he was beginning to get a bit of confidence in his three pointer. Offensively he'll blow up one game out of 8 to 10 and make you think that he's the next great thing, but then he'll have four or five mediocre games and one or two really bad games in between.

Inconsistency and occasional lack of effort are the real downsides here. He doesn't put out good effort on the defensive boards because he's too concerned about getting a run out, and his defense is really variable. He had some excellent defensive games for us while I was assigned to watch him in our grades threads but despite this the majority of fans on the site still complained about his defense in those games - leading me to believe that the popular wisdom that he's a terrible defender is probably a bit overstated. But all in all, he's not a lockdown guy, more of a guy who can fit into defensive schemes, give some good help, etc. - when he really wants to.

He was the #2 pick in his draft, and it's not like it was a dumb pick, it's just that he seemingly won't put in the effort to put it all together.
 
#4
He will have nights where you will see why he was selected so high in his draft, he will just stun you. He will follow that performance with about 5-7 bad ones. That is Williams in a nutshell plus the no defense thing.
 

hrdboild

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#6
A lot of people around here were very down on Williams. I don't think he really lived down to the expectations, but he's not an amazing package all told.

He's very athletic and you'll get some awesome lob dunks with him, and he was beginning to get a bit of confidence in his three pointer. Offensively he'll blow up one game out of 8 to 10 and make you think that he's the next great thing, but then he'll have four or five mediocre games and one or two really bad games in between.

Inconsistency and occasional lack of effort are the real downsides here. He doesn't put out good effort on the defensive boards because he's too concerned about getting a run out, and his defense is really variable. He had some excellent defensive games for us while I was assigned to watch him in our grades threads but despite this the majority of fans on the site still complained about his defense in those games - leading me to believe that the popular wisdom that he's a terrible defender is probably a bit overstated. But all in all, he's not a lockdown guy, more of a guy who can fit into defensive schemes, give some good help, etc. - when he really wants to.

He was the #2 pick in his draft, and it's not like it was a dumb pick, it's just that he seemingly won't put in the effort to put it all together.
This is exactly it, you won't find a better summary of Derrick Williams than this. He's a great athlete and occasionally impresses in just about every aspect of the game except for effort which is sadly his achilles heal to this point. I was a big supporter of Derrick Williams when he first got here but his lack of effort gradually wore me down to the point where I won't be missing him on the Kings. He should put on a good show for you guys in MSG though every other week or so. He usually shows up to make a statement whenever he feels like he needs to. Maybe the Zen Master will be able to light a fire under him. If he played like he cared every night he could be a very nice part of somebody's rotation. I wish him luck in New York. Oh and I think you got a steal in Kyle O'Quinn -- I wouldn't be suprised if you sneak into a low playoff seed this year.