Rockets fan here, not here to troll, but here to let y'all know what y'all got...

[gunks]

No kidding, anyone looking to dump on this trade are doing so pretty much because they still think of TRob as a #5 pick. He'll probably top out somewhere around a Paul Millsap level and if the Jazz drafted Paul Millsap at #5 they'd probably still be talking bust talk too.

My personal opinion is that the Rockets got a better prospect, the Kings got a better player for their needs. Just really hope Aldrich gets a chance to play too.

While I agree that T-Rob doesnt have the highest ceiling, I think if he was given the chance here he would be a fan favorite, blue collar type player. He is going to be Faried-lite over on the Rockets.

[Tetsujin]

He picked up Chandler Parsons with the 38th overall pick, saw something in Omer Asik no one else did, turned a bunch of role players into assets for the big Dwight Howard trade, and when he failed to get Dwight Howard, his consolation prize was James Harden. Then ultimately got the 5th overall pick for some scrap metal. And after all this, he still left enough cap to give DH12 the max in the offseason. That's mediocre?

Back to T-Robb, we don't need him to score a lot of points, we're already the number 2 scoring team in the league, with Harden and Lin dominating the ball, T-Robb likely won't get many touches outside of putbacks/dunks/under the basket. We really just need him to do the blue collar stuff and be able to finish at the rim. It's no secret Morey is going after DH12 in the offseason, so T-Robb might just be another asset for another trade in the offseason, the former 5th overall pick is much sexier in a trade offer than Patterson, Douglas and Aldrich. If he is indeed part of the team's future and can eventually be a 14 and 10 guy that defends, I'd be ecstatic.

Have fun with that.

[Heuge]

That's mediocre?

3 straight lottery appearances. 1 playoff series win in his 6 year tenure. Yup, mediocre.

You have to give it to him though, for putting Geoff's number in his phone.

[Heuge]

Lol is that how you evaluate a GM?

Ya, wins. They are so overrated.
I will call him more than a mediocre GM when he is able to put a winning product on the floor. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

[VF21]

Lol is that how you evaluate a GM? It's his fault his star players, T-Mac and Yao, were supposed to be hitting their prime but had injuries that ended their careers prematurely?

3 years after the end of the T-Mac and Yao era and we were forced to start over, Morey already got his next franchise player in Harden. 3 years was all it took. And he did all this without tanking, we drafted 14th back to back, so we were still competing. When Morey gutted the entire roster last summer (only two players remain from last year's roster), everyone assumed we were tanking, but nah, he knew what he was doing, it was his master plan unfolding and now Morey has us ready to contend again in the very near future.

By the way, Atlanta was practically begging for Morey to take Josh Smith at the trade deadline, but nah, Morey would only trade a bag of chips for him, because he knows 1. He can either get him in the offseason or 2. He doesn't believe Josh Smith will make them good enough to face Miami in the Finals, and Smith wants a max contract, so signing him would mean you're capped out and it could handcuff the franchise. Morey knows what he's doing, he's not looking to build his team into a number 5 seed, he's building a championship team.

I'll be totally honest. If you're here to discuss your GM, don't bother. If you're here to continue to tout how you got the best of the deal, don't bother. In case you haven't heard., we're kind of up to our arse in alligators at the moment so forgive us if we forget about draining the swamp.

Show some respect. We honestly don't need a Rockets fan here to rub salt in our wounds. We've gotten pretty good at doing it ourselves the past couple of years.

[22straight]

I'll be totally honest. If you're here to discuss your GM, don't bother. If you're here to continue to tout how you got the best of the deal, don't bother. In case you haven't heard., we're kind of up to our arse in alligators at the moment so forgive us if we forget about draining the swamp.

Show some respect. We honestly don't need a Rockets fan here to rub salt in our wounds. We've gotten pretty good at doing it ourselves the past couple of years.

True, there was a lot of gloating added in obviously and I apologize for that, I truly do, I was just so excited when I woke up and heard the news, I honestly didn't think we'd make any more moves this season. I also apologize to all the King fans here, y'all are classy fans and did not deserve that. I also want you guys to know that despite my gloating, it did not represent the Houston Rocket fans, they're great people, never had issues with any of them at any of the games, no Houston Rocket fan encouraged me to come on your board. It was a dick move by me and I'm not proud of it now looking back.

I have nothing against the Kings, I freaking loved that squad back in the day with C-Webb, Christie, Bibby and company. You have a tremendous talent in Cousins, and I honestly think he has Tim Duncan like talent, at least on the offensive end. You're closer to being relevant than you think, you're just a hot mess right now, but a foundation piece is there, in Cousins, and that makes things a little easier. It's like having a bad football team but you just drafted a QB in the first round that has potential to be great...the rest of the pieces eventually fall in place.

Make Tyreke a Sixth Man and he could kill it, get a REAL point guard and it'll do wonders for Cousins.

Gut the team except for Cousins, Tyreke and Patterson and start building around that.

[sook]

Rockets fan here:


Sorry about this dickhead, he posted this on our site and we called him out for his B.S. Kings are a great organization and I really hope they stay in Sac.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=234392

You come off as a douche and I'm glad you didn't mention clutchfans

My take, this trade makes us worse for now and I hope TRobb develops into a solid player. Morey is REALLY overrated by some Rockets fans, mostly the homer ones.

[sook]

Lol is that how you evaluate a GM? It's his fault his star players, T-Mac and Yao, were supposed to be hitting their prime but had injuries that ended their careers prematurely?

3 years after the end of the T-Mac and Yao era and we were forced to start over, Morey already got his next franchise player in Harden. 3 years was all it took. And he did all this without tanking, we drafted 14th back to back, so we were still competing. When Morey gutted the entire roster last summer (only two players remain from last year's roster), everyone assumed we were tanking, but nah, he knew what he was doing, it was his master plan unfolding and now Morey has us ready to contend again in the very near future.

By the way, Atlanta was practically begging for Morey to take Josh Smith at the trade deadline, but nah, Morey would only trade a bag of chips for him, because he knows 1. He can either get him in the offseason or 2. He doesn't believe Josh Smith will make them good enough to face Miami in the Finals, and Smith wants a max contract, so signing him would mean you're capped out and it could handcuff the franchise. Morey knows what he's doing, he's not looking to build his team into a number 5 seed, he's building a championship team.

Morey has been playing the "collecting assets" game for years and it didn't really pay off before the Harden trade. He is way too over confident sometimes and It really shows. He is a good/mediocre GM as of now.

[deekay2o9]

I think Morey is a good GM, good at finding diamonds in roughs. Even if he was the GM here, his hands would be tied by the Maloofs.

[Henkel]

Ya, wins. They are so overrated.
I will call him more than a mediocre GM when he is able to put a winning product on the floor. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

You won't be waiting long. That team isn't far off considering they have already taken care of the hardest part now that they have Harden.

He is also right that if Yao and TM didn't go down that team could of been really good.

Not sure why people are so hostile towards this poster. Appreciate the info.

[UK_King]

Say what you want about Morey but he was super agressive this off season and continues to be, it might all crumble but at least he's doing something.

[22straight]

Hey King fans, OP here, I just wanted to apologize again for gloating in the original first post. It was insensitive, unnecessary and just wrong. I completely forgot about the situation with Seattle when I made it, and now I feel terrible for it. The original intent was to swap analysis, and I have redone the original post with just that, minus any gloating. The Kings have a lot of great fans and I'll be rooting for them to stay, Sacramento is not only a great city, but a great city for basketball.

[LWP777]

Why is everybody so damn sensitive? I mean, seriously, the entire world has become pussified. Who cares if this guy comes to "our" board and talks about the trade? Does that really hurt your feelings that bad? Trust me, there are far more important things in your life (hopefully) than a Rockets fan coming here and talking about the trade.

Sure he's gloating a bit but it's more than he's just excited about the deal. It's no different than how we would be if we felt like GP pulled off a great deal (which, of course, has been years). I welcome other points of views here. It's a nice change from listening to the 4-5 main posters around here who everybody thinks is a God.

[mac]

Hey King fans, OP here, I just wanted to apologize again for gloating in the original first post. It was insensitive, unnecessary and just wrong. I completely forgot about the situation with Seattle when I made it, and now I feel terrible for it. The original intent was to swap analysis, and I have redone the original post with just that, minus any gloating. The Kings have a lot of great fans and I'll be rooting for them to stay, Sacramento is not only a great city, but a great city for basketball.

You have my respect for going back and editing your post. It's rare for most of the basketball world and national media to agree that a trade was lopsided, and in this case many (yourself included) feel that this was a very, very lopsided trade, and reports that the FO was not happy doing this trade only added fuel to the fire that the Maloofs started 7 years ago. Your original post seemed like you were just here to rub the bad trade in our faces.

Right now the only positive I can hope for is that Patterson and Douglas can bring some much needed coaching to the team. Regardless of their actual abilities on the court, they've at least played for decent coaches in the NBA, and maybe their coaching will rub off on our guys, who have only had bad coach after bad coach teach them nothing. Evans has been in the league for 3.5 years and in that time he still hasn't seen any semblance of a reliable offense (or defense for that matter) established. Up to now, I cannot tell you what style of basketball the Kings play, other than maybe run and chuck, losing basketball.

[mac]

Why is everybody so damn sensitive? I mean, seriously, the entire world has become pussified. Who cares if this guy comes to "our" board and talks about the trade? Does that really hurt your feelings that bad? Trust me, there are far more important things in your life (hopefully) than a Rockets fan coming here and talking about the trade.

Sure he's gloating a bit but it's more than he's just excited about the deal. It's no different than how we would be if we felt like GP pulled off a great deal (which, of course, has been years). I welcome other points of views here. It's a nice change from listening to the 4-5 main posters around here who everybody thinks is a God.

Then why not just go to a Rockets forum? Seriously, I'm getting tired of people like you who only b*tch about things around here day in and day out, who choose not to engage in proper basketball discussion but instead start criticizing the board just because your opinion isn't ever the popular one.

[LWP777]

Then why not just go to a Rockets forum? Seriously, I'm getting tired of people like you who only b*tch about things around here day in and day out, who choose not to engage in proper basketball discussion but instead start criticizing the board just because your opinion isn't ever the popular one.

What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with my opinion. I know that my opinion is not the popular one and I can care less. Great leaders and visionaries are rarely agreed with. This is about everybody whining and crying like little girls because a Rockets fan came to the board to talk about the trade. I mean, seriously, grow a pair. Who the F cares?

Oh, and "proper basketball discussion"......hilarious!

[mac]

What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with my opinion. I know that my opinion is not the popular one and I can care less. Great leaders and visionaries are rarely agreed with. This is about everybody whining and crying like little girls because a Rockets fan came to the board to talk about the trade. I mean, seriously, grow a pair. Who the F cares?

Oh, and "proper basketball discussion"......hilarious!

So what exactly are you here for? According to you there's no basketball discussion that goes on around here, and everyone's just a little whiner, and the whole board just has groupthink. What are you, the savior and bringer of sanity?

[LWP777]

So what exactly are you here for? According to you there's no basketball discussion that goes on around here, and everyone's just a little whiner, and the whole board just has groupthink. What are you, the savior and bringer of sanity?

Wow, you have completely missed the point. Did you get enough sleep last night? MY POINT is that what this Rockets fan has done is nothing more than good basketball discussion. I welcome that. I found it interesting to hear his point of view since I really don't have much knowledge of the Rockets situation and he did a pretty good job of telling us what the deal is over there. But nobody here can handle that. He gets called a troll and everybody's feelings get hurt because he is "rubbing it in our face" and we are already beaten down because of the potential for moving to Seattle.

Do you get it now?

[jalfa]

Wow, you have completely missed the point. Did you get enough sleep last night? MY POINT is that what this Rockets fan has done is nothing more than good basketball discussion. I welcome that. I found it interesting to hear his point of view since I really don't have much knowledge of the Rockets situation and he did a pretty good job of telling us what the deal is over there. But nobody here can handle that. He gets called a troll and everybody's feelings get hurt because he is "rubbing it in our face" and we are already beaten down because of the potential for moving to Seattle.

Do you get it now?

define "everybody". I count all of 4 people attacking OP, one of them being you.

[beb0p]

Then ultimately got the 5th overall pick for some scrap metal. And after all this, he still left enough cap to give DH12 the max in the offseason. That's mediocre?

The thing is that if you call Patterson/Aldrich/Douglas scrap metal then TRob is just another scrap metal too. Let go for a minute the fact that he was a #5 pick and just look at him as a player. He's no more talented than Patterson, he's different from Patterson and he brings different skill to the table but he ultimately is on about the same level as TRob. Basically this trade swap a #11 and #14 plus a filler for a #5 pus two fillers. It's not as loopsided as many people think, especially when the #5 in question has been vastly disappointing and playing like a late first/2nd round pick.

Back to T-Robb, we don't need him to score a lot of points, we're already the number 2 scoring team in the league, with Harden and Lin dominating the ball, T-Robb likely won't get many touches outside of putbacks/dunks/under the basket. We really just need him to do the blue collar stuff and be able to finish at the rim.

But TRob doesn't shown the ability to finish at the rim, get putbacks, or defend and probably will continue to have problems finishing at the rim and defend bigger guys.