Tyreke Evans
Isaiah Thomas
Jimmer/Brooks
Marcus Thornton
Keith Smart
IT is not the weaker player, at least not offensively. If Tyreke, DMC,JT and IT took a hundred shoots each the results would be as follows:Originally Posted by Spike
IT 60 points scored
DMC 58 points
JT 56 points
Reke 54 points
These are the stats, They have no bias. IT is a better offensive player than the other players. He should take the most shots.
Way to misuse stats. So anyone with a higher efg% should take the most shots for their team? If you really believe our offense should revolve around IT I'm not sure why anybody is going to have this debate with you.
Go ahead and explain to me how I misused the stats. I didn't pick some random player and with very few minutes and attempts and extrapolate. I used the 4 highest scoring players on the team. These are real results, it isn't what would happen it is what is happening. The only argument that could be made against IT offensively is that those other players would be more efficient with a different point guard but there just isn't any evidence to support that. It wasn't in the starting line up and the team wasn't any better offensively.
Defense is an entirely different issue. IT is a pretty terrible defender.
The thing is, I am not an IT fan boy. I want Jimmer to play instead of IT because I am a Jimmer fan. T
You used one advanced shooting % metric to state that IT is a better offensive player than anyone else on the team and should lead the team in shots. If you don't understand how using one stat to make those kind of conclusions is absurd, I don't know what to say.
Also, the team would be better with a different type of pg. we weren't when it wasn't starting because we don't really have a better pg to play.
Last edited by sdballer; 02-24-2013 at 03:06 PM.
Dwyane Wade: TS% .570 eFG% .520.
Please, PLEASE tell me right now that IT is a better offensive player than Dwyane Wade and should take more shots than him. Please, just write it out here. Just say it. Then you can go away quietly.
"Advanced" stat people are hilarious.
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Yeah they are and you're the biggest one here.
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IT is more efficient than Dwayne Wade.
Now it is your turn to tell my why he isn't.
I am not saying that I would rather have IT than Dwayne Wade. Wade is a much better player, he is a better rebounded, better passer and a way better defender. If you are going to talk strictly who scores the ball best per possession then IT is slightly better.
No he isn't. He uses stats to back up his bias, not to create it.
See, here is the problem with forums. They record the less than well thought out stuff that sometimes spills out of our brains. Your argument just a few posts above claims that IT is a BETTER offensive player than anyone else on the kings due to his shooting percentages, not more efficient. Do you still think IT is a better offensive player than anyone that shoots a lower efg, including Dwade or are we backing off to a much less ridiculous and mostly irrelevant points per possession debate?
IT is more efficient than Tyreke. You can whine, scream, kick all you want but there's nothing to change that fact. The numbers back it up. Since IT and Reke are taking equal shots right now as well, yes, that makes IT the most efficient/effective scorer on the team.
Whether he should be taking equal shots with Reke/Boogie or if Reke is beingused incorrectly is an entirely different argument. However, the beauty of numbers is you can't change them to fit anopinion. They remain unbiased, unlike our opinions.
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