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Thread: Grades v. Celtics 01/30/2013

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    Grades v. Celtics 01/30/2013

    Ok, for all those who have this taped off, this game had 3 distinct stages:

    1) a competive first quarter, where despite spotty perfromances from some, overall we competed and weere in it
    2) a complete 37-14 debacle in the second quarter, started by the bench, and lingering after the starters returned. The hangover even lingered into the early 3rd.
    3) a gritty final 18 minutes led by Tyreke Evans, but participated in by half a dozen other guys, all of whom seemed like they wanted to compete

    That still all adds up to Girls, but at least the tough close, where we saw some effort, toughness, desire, helped wash out some of the real Denver level ick you were feeling by the mid 3rd as it looked like we had compeltely collapsed and turned on ourselves.

    So another road game, another large margin loss, another batch of beautiful girls (glad people out there keep making more of them or we'd run out). You know the story. You know who's grading. So let's get to it:

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    Stats: 21min 6pts (2-6, 2-4, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
    Garcia ( D- ) -- Cisco had a rough night. And he started off the night on the right foot by hitting his first shot, a 3pt'er. Unfortunately it started to go south almost immediately. He mishandled a beautiful pass from Cousins right under the basket. At the other end, he got caught in a screen and Bradley hit a jumper. His next trip down he played Bradley pretty well, but Bradley scored with a jumper over his outstreched hand. Trying to make up for it at the other end, he forced up a shot off the dribble and missed. Shooting off the dribble isn't Cisco's strong suit. A bit later he tries to drive the left baseline and loses the handle for a turnover. Then old man Cisco trying to guard old man Pierce, gets beat off the dribble and Pierce lays it in. He finished off his night by getting called for a travel, and then missing a wide open three. --Baja

    Alexandra Stan -- per rainmaker. Another Romanian pop princess? You betcha. And that's two more than you knew of a week ago.

    Stats: 21min 9pts (4-7, 0-0, 1-2) 3reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
    Thompson ( C ) -- most of JT's minutes in this one came in the first half, and they were fairly decent minutes. He started the game off in indifferent fashion, spliting a pair of jumpers, getting a layup blocked by Garnett before committing one of his incrediby annoying soft little touch fouls inside to give a guy a +1. What I wouldn't give for a thug that would smack people hard enough they had no chance to finish those plays. But as the first quarter wore on adn we fought back, Jason got effective in rolepolayer fashion playong off the ball and just taking passes from Reke and Cousins and finishing them. After the bench's debacle in the early 3rd, was one of the core starters returned to try to stabilize things in the mid 2nd. Did get a follow dunk, but did not disrupt the Celtcis' rhyyhm on defense as the C's hit their first 14 shots of the second quarter before finally blowing a layup. Started the third by immediately throwing a bad pass turnover, and with us still dead int eh water and the lead growing from 21 to 26pts, Smart quickly yanked JT and Cisco without 3 min of the half starting, never to return.--Brick

    Mia Zarring -- A Slim special.

    Stats: 33min 13pts (4-12, 0-1, 5-8) 6reb 4ast 1stl 1blk 5TO
    Cousins ( D+ ) -- The game started unfortunately for Cousins with Garnett hitting three tough shot on him in a row, the third being a ridiculous fadeaway 18-footer as the shot clock expired despite very good D. He continued a pretty nice showing on D, consistently helping and looking to cut off the drive. The Celtics were deliberately trying to get Pierce matched up on a center, but it didn't work when Cousins picked him up, with Cuz knocking the ball away from Pierce on a drive and then forcing him into a travel in the third, and then picking him up on the perimeter on two consecutive possessions in the fourth forcing a perimeter pass on one and sitting in his face for the entire shot clock and forcing a 24-second violation in the next. He also broke up an alley-oop pass to Garnett. In fact, probably his only notably bad defensive play was an attempted steal in the backcourt (yeah, he still does that sometimes) that allowed Garnett to get back in transition and deep in the paint on IT. But outside of defense, boogie didn't really have his game going tonight. He only grabbed six rebounds for another subpar night and 13 points on 4-12 shooting is far less than we've come to expect from him. The good news is that he wasn't sulking out on the perimeter tonight, he actually spent time getting the ball in the post, though for the first and second quarters, it was generally about as high of a post as he'll go into, a bit outside the elbow instead of at it. After a particularly bad stretch for the team that ended in Cousins throwing the ball off of Tyreke's feet on a cut, it looked like he was about to lose it. Strangely, after a timeout he seemed to focus and started to fight for position very deep in the lane, resulting in a layup and two free throws on consecutive possessions, but his new-found lane crashing came to an end when he committed a charge and sat down with his fourth foul. Still, when he came back in during the fourth with the game decided, he kept playing hard. The results were not so good, but the attitude looked like it took a turn for the better despite the big loss. --Capt.

    Alison Brie -- per Padrino.

    Stats: 41min 19pts (7-15, 1-2, 4-4) 11reb 2ast 3stl 0blk 4TO
    Evans ( B ) -- Tyreke played 41 minutes tonight, and they were very active minutes. I was surprised that the stats only showed him with 2 assists, because my notes had him with 4, so obviously the official scorer and I aren't on the same page. Tyreke played terrific defense tonight, with 3 steals, and made life miserable for whom ever he was guarding. Pierce found out in one sequence when he tried to take Tyreke off the dribble along the left baseline. Tyreke scored his first basket on a post up, which I wish he would do more of. He found his way to the basket time and time again, either scoring, or making great passes. For most of the nignt, Tyreke looked the part of a PG, even if the box score doesn't reflect it. It wasn't a perfect night. He bit on a Terry pumpfake, and let Terry go unabated to the basket. But that was about his only mistake on defense. He couldn't get through the night of course without making the occasional drive to the basket into heavy traffic and throwing up a wild shot that had no prayer. He got his shot blocked on one sequence by Garnett, and took a shot at throwing the ball the full length of the floor after grabbing a rebound. Wasn't a good idea! But all in all, he played very well, and was probably the best player on the floor for the Kings. He pulled down 11 rebounds as well. Unfortunately, he didn't have a lot of help. --Baja

    Anne Curts Smith -- per Agent23.

    Stats: 24min 8pts (2-10, 1-4, 3-4) 3reb 1ast 3stl 0blk 0TO
    Thomas ( D- ) -- somebody's mom once said life is like a box of chocolates, and so are the nightly performances by most of our Kings. In this case it was IT, coming off his best performance in a month...and indeed likely his best performance since we faced Boston last time a month ago. And he comes out and misses his first 7 shots of this game, from points stretching all the way from the 3pt line to right at the rim. Now to be fair he had some help in this one, as if his numbers against Boston a month ago were aided by the matchup with an ailing Rondo, his numbers tonight took a hit as he was smothered by Avery Bradley, who while not being quite the wunderkind Boston fans make him out to be, is a long armed quick and aggressive defender who was right up in IT's grill. IT's offensive response was predictable and dumb as he showed that meanie who he was messing with by racing down and airballing a jumper. But that same competitiveness found better outlet on the defensive side of the ball, where in the early going he was able to provide on and off effective ball pressure of his own against the Celtics big non-PGs. Of minor note he made a nice little unselfih play to close the first given his 0-5 start, as Reke was working hard on defense, knocked a ball away for a steal, scooped it to IT who had the gimme, but the little guy appropriately scooped it right back to Reke to reward the guy who started the whole thing rather than break his own bagel with the gimme. Kept missing after returning in the second, and finished the half 0-7. And as the Celtics were in the midst of their huge run we were treated to the spectacle again and again of little IT being the guy back trying to defend the break against guys a foot taller than he is. He competed, gave it his best flying liliputian iimitation, notched a steal, deflected another one, but also just had to watch helplessly as they played over his head on most of them. Finally hit his first shot, a three, in the early third. And so of course then comes out of a timeout and forced a bricked three off his dribble. The brain of a minichucker must be a funny place. Closed with a pokeaway steal from behind and leakout for the resulting layup. But when your PG notches 1 assist AND can't shoot, has a tendency to lead to unhealthy grades Mostly being given anything at all here just for the effort..--Brick

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    Grades v. Celtics 01/30/2013

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    Stats: 21min 11pts (4-5, 0-0, 3-6) 4reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
    Robinson ( C- ) -- Robinson had a good shooting night from the floor, hitting four of five shots, only missing a dunk in traffic off a nice pass by Hayes. He had a very nice baseline drive that he finished with a spin move in the lane and a left-handed lay-in. But his free throw shooting continues to be another story with TRob going 3-6 from the line, missing one of two each time he got to the charity stripe. It should be noted that two of those FTs came off of a baseline drive that shouldn't have happened - he was in the wrong place and picked off a pass that was intended for Outlaw in the corner only three feet behind him. His offensive spacing was problematic on and off throughout, once standing directly next to Hayes at the top of the circle as Hayes was trying to push him into proper position for the play. Robinson was giving decent enough effort out there tonight, especially on a few switches on the perimeter, one of which resulted in a steal and a fast break dunk, but the rebounding results really weren't there. Defensively, he wasn't terribly involved and didn't seem to be on the same page with the rest of the team when the Kings went to a zone briefly in the third, and on one occasion he let Wilcox blow around him without the ball, leaving him open for a pass and layup at the rim, but for the most part the offense wasn't focused on him. --Capt.

    Katerina Stikoudi -- I suppose you could call this former Miss World contestant the greek version of the recent pop princess trend in the girls threads.

    Stats: 21min 2pts (1-3, 0-0, 0-0) 6reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
    Hayes ( C ) -- Hayes was a steadying influence out there tonight and while he didn't contribute much offense, his 6 rebounds in 21 minutes was pretty much par for the course. After the second quarter (when he got beat on transition by Green, had to leave the lane to pick up Barbosa who found Garnett for a dunk, and was late on help giving Barbosa an easy floater) he played good D. And let's face it, the second quarter was a complete loss and it wasn't only Chuck's fault. Most of Chuck's minutes tonight were in virtual garbage time, so they weren't high-pressure and I think we got just about what we expected from him.--Capt.

    America Olivo

    Stats: 27min 7pts (3-7, 1-3, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 3stl 0blk 0TO
    Thornton ( C ) -- Marcus, like Jimmer played better than his stats showed, although he did end up with a bit more in the bag. He scored 7 pts going 3 for 7. He added 3 boards and 3 steals. I thought Marcus busted his butt playing defense tonight. He wasn't always successful, but it wasn't for lack of trying. I also think he's doing his best to play team ball, which is probably hard for a scorer like him. He made some nice passes, and in general shared the ball. I don't think he ever got into a rhythm. He went long periods without touching the ball. 7 shots isn't many shots for a scorer like Thornton. He had his share of mistakes as well. He lost the ball off the dribble for what would have been a turnover, but Tyreke ended up with it. He made a wild drive into the teeth of the defense on one occasion with no where to go and just threw up a wild shot. All in all, he didn't play badly. He just wasn't productive enough for having played 27 minutes. --Baja

    Minka Kelly

    Stats: 6min 1pts (0-0, 0-0, 1-2) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
    Brooks ( INC ) -- ineffective and invisible as the PG during our disastrous 2nd quarter collapse. Kind of hard ot pin it directly on him, since he was barely involved, but obviously the lineup did not work and he was not able to get it into anything. Made a few furtive efforts to get towards the rim, one of which resulted in his only point of the game as a FT, but for the most part even once he got there did not know what he wanted to do and was treated to such exciting options as Thomas Robinson, Chuck Hayes, and Travis Outlaw as kickout options. --Brick

    Mylene Jampanoi

    Stats: 4min 3pts (1-3, 1-2, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
    Outlaw ( INC ) -- Came in early in the second and immediately hit a three then did nothing else for four minutes except miss a three and turn the ball over on the break. Not a good showing, but not enough to earn any grade at all. --Capt.

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    Grades v. Celtics 01/30/2013

    Stats: 1min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
    Johnson ( INC ) -- in for the final 1min and 20sec of the first half in a brilliant substitution pattern by Keith Smart. Managed in that time to immediately jack up an ice cold jumper off the dribble after entering, and to leave/lose his man entirely in the corner and watch him bury another three on us. The missed three of his own was just the halftime buzzer beating heave. --Brick

    Carmine Giovinazzo

    Stats: 18min 2pts (1-4, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
    Fredette ( D+ ) -- This was a tough one to grade. Overall, I thought Jimmer played fairly well. The problem is, the stats don't reflect that. He only took 4 shots, and made one, a floater in the lane. He only managed 2 assists, but was involved in quite a bit of the ball movement that ended in a basket. He started by making a nice pass to Cousins in the post, who was fouled. By the way, this is one of the few times in the game where Cuz got the ball in the low post instead of the high post. In another sequence, he drove into the lane, and then dished to Thornton, who immediately passed the ball to Tyreke who hit a three point shot. No assist for Jimmer, but he drew the defense to him with his drive, and helped get Tyreke open at the top of the 3 pt line. He made a nice pass to T. Robb on a fast break who was fouled. He followed that with a bounce pass in the low post to Hayes who scored. A bit later he made a similiar pass to a cutting Thornton, who mishandled the ball. Anyway, I think you see my point. He did a lot of things right, but didn't get the results. Unfortunately he started off the nignt by getting his pocket picked by Bradley for his one turnover. --Baja

    Josh Lucas

    Stats: 1min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
    Honeycutt ( INC ) -- just the last min of garbagetime. Showed only that he is still breathgng. --Brick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    Ok, for all those who have this taped off, this game had 3 distinct stages:

    1) a competive first quarter, where despite spotty perfromances from some, overall we competed and weere in it
    2) a complete 37-14 debacle in the second quarter, started by the bench, and lingering after the starters returned. The hangover even lingered into the early 3rd.
    3) a gritty final 18 minutes led by Tyreke Evans, but participated in by half a dozen other guys, all of whom seemed like they wanted to compete

    That still all adds up to Girls, but at least the tough close, where we saw some effort, toughness, desire, helped wash out some of the real Denver level ick you were feeling by the mid 3rd as it looked like we had compeltely collapsed and turned on ourselves.

    So another road game, another large margin loss, another batch of beautiful girls (glad people out there keep making more of them or we'd run out). You know the story. You know who's grading. So let's get to it:

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    Bricklayer, I would like to request to grade DMC for each game. How do I apply for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Bricklayer, I would like to request to grade DMC for each game. How do I apply for that?
    You don't. The sine qua non of the Consortium is not impartiality, but it is the ability to be fair.
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer

    "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities." --Albert Einstein

    "Petrie signings are more akin to the splash you get when you accidentally drop your toothbrush in the toilet. " -- swisshh

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Bricklayer, I would like to request to grade DMC for each game. How do I apply for that?
    Job requirement #1: don't act like an instigating troll whenever dmc is involved.
    Job requirement #2: never mind, we're going to go in a different direction. Thanks for the interest

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    Since it worked last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring... Mia Zarring...
    oh my
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    alison brie, if you please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    oh my
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    Anne Curtis Smith pleaaassseee

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdballer View Post
    Job requirement #1: don't act like an instigating troll whenever dmc is involved.
    Job requirement #2: never mind, we're going to go in a different direction. Thanks for the interest
    You guys are SO MEAN!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    You don't. The sine qua non of the Consortium is not impartiality, but it is the ability to be fair.
    Give me ONE opportunity. I promise to be fair. If you feel I'm trolling or not being fair you don't have to publish it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    oh my
    The one thing that I have learned for certain on this board is that slim has good taste in women.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Give me ONE opportunity. I promise to be fair. If you feel I'm trolling or not being fair you don't have to publish it.
    You could just give your own grade and explain why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    You guys are SO MEAN!!!
    We dont need you buddy, Big Cuz is basically trolling himself at this point.
    Optimism FTW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunks View Post
    We dont need you buddy, Big Cuz is basically trolling himself at this point.
    That's a really good point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Npliam View Post
    You could just give your own grade and explain why.
    Another good point although I've always wanted to make it to the big time and be in Bricklayer's official grading post.
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    Cousins is shooting 52.3 percent from inside of eight feet this season (193 of 369). Cousins is shooting 31 percent (74 of 239) from anything outside of eight feet.

    Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/sports/kings...#storylink=cpy
    So hes better closer to the bucket who would have thought?

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