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Thread: Hate to bring this up but worst case scenario... Warriors or Super Sonics

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    So does this mean I should be a Nuggets fan because I no longer live near Sacramento?
    F that. Same for the Broncos. I know where my loyalties lie, even though I no longer live in the region.
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    Kings would be dead in a Seattle move. The only way I switch to Seattle is if there is some player I am fond of gets me there. Right now, that is not the case.
    I will always be a Kings fan, even after the day they die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Reign View Post
    This is like asking "will you support your former husband who has married another woman" or "will you go look for another man". HOW ABOUT NEITHER!!!
    so you would just choose to be forever alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macadocious View Post
    What team? The Sonics? They will not be the Kings anymore. It's not like Mr. Oracle is buying them and moving them to San Jose and keeping everything the same. This a complete change.
    Totally agree.
    I will always be a Kings fan, even after the day they die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macadocious View Post
    What team? The Sonics? They will not be the Kings anymore. It's not like Mr. Oracle is buying them and moving them to San Jose and keeping everything the same. This a complete change.
    Here's the part that you need to wrap your head around, macadocious: I don't care what they're called. I don't care if they're not the "Kings." If they become the "Sonics," that doesn't magically stop making them the same team I've been a fan of for 20+ years. They can call themselves the Kings, the Sonics, the Blues... Hell, they can call themselves the Lakers, part Deux. They're still the same team.
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    I would be a Sonics fan and anyone who says I am not a "true fan" can shove it where the sun dont shine. I am moving to Seattle within the year anyways. I would obviously prefer they stay in Sacramento because I have so many memories from Kings games. I could never root for the Warriors or Clippers. The Sonics would be the closest thing to the Kings I could get. Plus they will be the local team.

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    The whole Sacramento Kings era from Richmond, Theus etc through Webber, Divac, Peja Etc will not be connected to the Seattle Sonics if the team moves. I guess in the mind of some fans they will be, but the franchise will have no ties to that Kings era or those players.

    Because they were still The Kings, the orginization still had ties and history to the players, coaches etc from the past when they relocated from Kansas City. And they were acknowledged as such when they came to Sac. That won't be the case in Seattle.

    The only reason I've endured these last years of suck was because they were the Kings and had history with other Kings/ Royals teams and players.

    The Sonics belong to Seattle. And yes I think of players like Kemp, Payton etc when I think Seattle Sonic basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    They're still the same team.
    That makes absolutely no sense. As I stated before, the only thing that would be the same would be a couple players. And within a few years, I am sure there will be zero tie to anything Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Reign View Post
    This is like asking "will you support your former husband who has married another woman" or "will you go look for another man". HOW ABOUT NEITHER!!!
    Bollocks, that's an utterly false equivalency. It's more like asking, if your kid plays D-I for UNC, and then transfers to Georgetown, who will you root for? If you grew up around Chapel Hill, and/or root for UNC, you might say that you should have loyalty to UNC... But what about if you grew up in Atlanta, and went to Mercer? Then you have no attachment to UNC, or Chapel Hill: your allegiance goes where your kid goes.

    The Kings/Royals/Sonics/whatever the **** are my kid. I go where they go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macadocious View Post
    What does that have to do with anything? They are no longer the Sacramento Kings. Hell, they won't even be the Kings anymore. They will be a different franchise completely.

    I don't think there are a lot of old Houston Oiler fans who are now Tennessee Titan fans. The only people who will be a fan of this team, that were "Kings Fans" will be ones who were a fan of player or players(s), not the team itself.
    You are sooo right. I couldn't root for the Seattle Sasquatch. I will change my allegiance back to the Warriors I rooted for before we stole the Kansas City Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    Bollocks, that's an utterly false equivalency. It's more like asking, if your kid plays D-I for UNC, and then transfers to Georgetown, who will you root for? If you grew up around Chapel Hill, and/or root for UNC, you might say that you should have loyalty to UNC... But what about if you grew up in Atlanta, and went to Mercer? Then you have no attachment to UNC, or Chapel Hill: your allegiance goes where your kid goes.
    Which makes you a fan of a player not the team. Also, you get a mulligan if you child or close family member plays for a different team. So that is not a fair example.


    If you were a Bulls fan in the 90's because of Jordan, would you switch to being a Wziards fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    Here's the part that you need to wrap your head around, macadocious: I don't care what they're called. I don't care if they're not the "Kings." If they become the "Sonics," that doesn't magically stop making them the same team I've been a fan of for 20+ years. They can call themselves the Kings, the Sonics, the Blues... Hell, they can call themselves the Lakers, part Deux. They're still the same team.
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    [COLOR="#008080"]I don't care if they're not the "Kings." If they become the "Sonics," that doesn't magically stop making them the same team I've been a fan of for 20+ years. /COLOR]
    Sorry forgot to address this part.

    Yes it does. In this scenario, it magically stops making them the Kings. They will be the Sonics, they will also share the Sonics history.

    Same thing happened in Cleveland, with the browns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyrin View Post
    I couldn't imagine supporting Warriors or Clippers after so many years of rooting against them so hard. I think I'd stick with the Sonics, they will have part of our history.
    No they won't. That history will either be gone or staying in sacramento. They would be getting the Sonics history.
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    There ain't no such thing as a mulligan.

    The Royals didn't become a different team when they moved from Rochester to Cincinnati. They didn't become a different team when they became the Kings and moved to Kansas City. They didn't become a different team when they moved to Sacramento. And they won't become a different team when they move to Seattle. Their history isn't deleted. You can pretend that it didn't happen, or that it happened with a different team, all you want, but you don't get to take the memories out of my head:I know what happened. I know that the team that Richmond and Webber played for is not the same team as whatever team Sacramento ends up with, if the Kings leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macadocious View Post
    Sorry forgot to address this part.

    Yes it does. In this scenario, it magically stops making them the Kings. They will be the Sonics, they will also share the Sonics history.

    Same thing happened in Cleveland, with the browns.
    No, it doesn't. Stick your head in the sand if you want to. The "Cleveland Browns" were created in 1999. Anyone who says that's the same team that won four NFL Championships is lying to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    There ain't no such thing as a mulligan.

    The Royals didn't become a different team when they moved from Rochester to Cincinnati. They didn't become a different team when they became the Kings and moved to Kansas City. They didn't become a different team when they moved to Sacramento. And they won't become a different team when they move to Seattle. Their history isn't deleted. You can pretend that it didn't happen, or that it happened with a different team, all you want, but you don't get to take the memories out of my head:I know what happened. I know that the team that Richmond and Webber played for is not the same team as whatever team Sacramento ends up with, if the Kings leave.
    The great players and history of those teams was acknowledged in Sacramento and the great players' jerseys hung from the rafters. Webber, Divac, Archilbald, Richmond etc will NEVER hang in the rafters in Seattle or be considered by anyone in Seattle as history for them. Webber and Divac will never be invited to attend in a championship parade if the team ever wins one in Seattle. Kemp and Payton will be though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. S£im Citrus View Post
    There ain't no such thing as a mulligan.

    The Royals didn't become a different team when they moved from Rochester to Cincinnati. They didn't become a different team when they became the Kings and moved to Kansas City. They didn't become a different team when they moved to Sacramento. And they won't become a different team when they move to Seattle. Their history isn't deleted. You can pretend that it didn't happen, or that it happened with a different team, all you want, but you don't get to take the memories out of my head:I know what happened. I know that the team that Richmond and Webber played for is not the same team as whatever team Sacramento ends up with, if the Kings leave.
    No. Your missing the point. The sonics history currently ends in 2008. The Thunder started over. They do not own that 1979 championship the sonics do. If the Kings move to Seattle they will no longer be the Kings. The Kings history will stop. The team would continue the history from where the sonics left off.

    When you go to look up stats on the 2000 Sonics it will be the Sonics history not the Kings.
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    You can convince yourself of anything if you want it to be right. Logically they are no longer the Kings, that is really no debatable. Hell, part of Clay Bennets deal when he left was to relinquish all Sonics trademark and history back to seattle if they got a team. I guess you could argue that they would merge Kings history into that, but I don't see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbfish View Post
    You are sooo right. I couldn't root for the Seattle Sasquatch. I will change my allegiance back to the Warriors I rooted for before we stole the Kansas City Kings.
    What you said is both ironic and a contradiction. You support his statement (supposedly), but then proceed to do exactly the opposite by switching teams.

    I personally would continue to follow the team to Seattle. Of course, I would much prefer the Kings to stay in Sacramento. When I say "Sacramento Kings," there is just a flow to it that no other team has for me. I feel for all the Sacramento region residents. In all honesty, if Sacramento would get a team back, I would once again be a fan of the Sacramento Kings. I just enjoy basketball too much to not have a team. And I refuse to like any other team. This is the closest I can be to being a Sacramento Kings fan.
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