I can't really think of any.

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

The problem is you could also say the same thing for guys that never had trouble. It's the nature of the NBA where star type players are generally drafted by the worst teams and they can leave to other teams before they peak.

Here's a list of all of the players, who made their NBA debut in the post free-agency era (after 1976, a near-forty year span), to play their whole career with one team, that are currently in the Hall of Fame:

• Larry Bird
• Kevin McHale
• Isiah Thomas
• Earvin "Magic" Johnson
• James Worthy
• Joe Dumars
• John Stockton
• David Robinson
• Reggie Miller

[Kornheiser]That's it. That's the list.[/Kornheiser]

And, it is worth noting that only those last three played for a "small" market. I expect Bryant, Duncan, Pierce, Nowitzki and, probably, Wade, to be added to this list. After that, you might not see anybody, for a while.

[Section 101]

Here's a list of all of the players, who made their NBA debut in the post free-agency era (after 1976, a near-forty year span), to play their whole career with one team, that are currently in the Hall of Fame:

• Larry Bird
• Kevin McHale
• Isiah Thomas
• Earvin "Magic" Johnson
• James Worthy
• Joe Dumars
• John Stockton
• David Robinson
• Reggie Miller

[Kornheiser]That's it. That's the list.[/Kornheiser]

And, it is worth noting that only those last three played for a "small" market. I expect Bryant, Duncan, Pierce, Nowitzki and, probably, Wade, to be added to this list. After that, you might not see anybody, for a while.

Do Kobe and Dirk count as draft being drafted then traded?

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Do Kobe and Dirk count as draft being drafted then traded?

Not really. Definitely not Nowitzki: he had no input into his being traded, alleged or otherwise. And, for whatever input Bryant is alleged to have had, he's still played his whole career with the same team.

[bajaden]

I didn't know Barkley and Hakeem were troubled early on. I actually think Kemp is a pretty good example though.

I don't recall Hakeem having any problems, but definitely Barkley. Webb had a very troubled beginning, He butted heads with Nellie from the get go. Believe me, Dennis Rodman was no angel either. Gary Payton was a problem child as well. J Will was another one that had a short fuse. He got into it with a fan at a Warriors game that was heckleling him. Does anyone remember Mad Max, who dropped kicked a basketball almost up in the upper deck at arco. My god, Cousins hasn't thrown a punch at anyone, except maybe Greene, and I can't verify that. Corliss went after another player as he was walking off the floor. Bobby Jackson got into it with McGrady. Christie threw an uppercut.

You want to know the difference between those guys and Cousins? They were all on winning teams!!!!!!!! Fans have a tendency to be more tolerant of behavior when the team is winning. But when the team is losing, well, we won't tolerate that.

[sdballer]

I don't recall Hakeem having any problems, but definitely Barkley. Webb had a very troubled beginning, He butted heads with Nellie from the get go. Believe me, Dennis Rodman was no angel either. Gary Payton was a problem child as well. J Will was another one that had a short fuse. He got into it with a fan at a Warriors game that was heckleling him. Does anyone remember Mad Max, who dropped kicked a basketball almost up in the upper deck at arco. My god, Cousins hasn't thrown a punch at anyone, except maybe Greene, and I can't verify that. Corliss went after another player as he was walking off the floor. Bobby Jackson got into it with McGrady. Christie threw an uppercut.

You want to know the difference between those guys and Cousins? They were all on winning teams!!!!!!!! Fans have a tendency to be more tolerant of behavior when the team is winning. But when the team is losing, well, we won't tolerate that.

Agree on all those examples as well as their situations. Most of the examples also had good veterans on their teams. Hakeem was almost traded in the early 90s to to conflicts with management. He fought with them over contract issues and the team constructed. Also developed a little reputation as a cheap shot artist.

[Warhawk]

I don't recall Hakeem having any problems, but definitely Barkley. Webb had a very troubled beginning, He butted heads with Nellie from the get go. Believe me, Dennis Rodman was no angel either. Gary Payton was a problem child as well. J Will was another one that had a short fuse. He got into it with a fan at a Warriors game that was heckleling him. Does anyone remember Mad Max, who dropped kicked a basketball almost up in the upper deck at arco. My god, Cousins hasn't thrown a punch at anyone, except maybe Greene, and I can't verify that. Corliss went after another player as he was walking off the floor. Bobby Jackson got into it with McGrady. Christie threw an uppercut.

You want to know the difference between those guys and Cousins? They were all on winning teams!!!!!!!! Fans have a tendency to be more tolerant of behavior when the team is winning. But when the team is losing, well, we won't tolerate that.

I don't think this is a good example. By all counts, DC was nothing but a class act on and off the court. This was an isolated incident and we all know the history behind it. He did not have a history of "bad" behavior. Strange, yes, but not bad.