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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_King View Post
    I remember a lot of people saying Lillard should be avoided and would be a "bust" because he came from a small school. And when the word of his "unreal" workouts came down even that was poo poo'd as meaning nothing.

    Easy with hindsight to say we should have picked this guy and that guy, nothings a sure thing in the draft or the NBA.
    I think the Kings were high on him. They just had Robinson ahead of him and didn't really expect him to be there at #5. You can't really fault the Kings for drafting TRob. It's still way too early to determine who the better player will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    I think the Kings were high on him. They just had Robinson ahead of him and didn't really expect him to be there at #5. You can't really fault the Kings for drafting TRob. It's still way too early to determine who the better player will be.
    No, its really not.
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    Do you have next weeks lotto numbers as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    No, its really not.
    Do you just enjoy disagreeing with all my posts? Are you really saying that after 21 NBA games (especially considering he isn't even getting a lot of playing time) that it's already determined that Lillard will have a better career than TRob? You are the same person who says we need to be patient with DMC after 2 years of him acting like a clown. You contradict yourself and make no sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Do you just enjoy disagreeing with all my posts? Are you really saying that after 21 NBA games (especially considering he isn't even getting a lot of playing time) that it's already determined that Lillard will have a better career than TRob? You are the same person who says we need to be patient with DMC after 2 years of him acting like a clown. You contradict yourself and make no sense!
    Knowing talent when you see it makes perfect sense.
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    Knowing talent when you see it makes perfect sense.
    Wow! I didn't know you had those kinds of skills! Maybe you should approach the Magoofs and see if you can be the GM and coach!!
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    i think he can be a nice piece to any NBA team, but i dont think Robinson has a chance to ever contribute as much as Lillard already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Wow! I didn't know you had those kinds of skills! Maybe you should approach the Magoofs and see if you can be the GM and coach!!

    Maybe I should indeed.
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    i believe they will get to the playoffs again if they make a change at either the coach, or the gm or both. heck throw in a change at ownership for good measure. (of course the belief is for a better coach/gm/owner). some believe that the players dont fit together, but a good coach can play the right players together or do well with what he's given (ie adelman, or a good gm will put the right pieces together to make a good team. of course that team could be put together easier if we didnt have a bunch of stupid broke owners running the team

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    Not with the Maloofs as majority owners. Everything flows down from that.
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    IF, now mind you this is a long shot, but IF George Maloof dies from a cocaine overdose, AND Joe and Gavin win a 200+ million dollar powerball/megamillions jackpot...Then maaaaaaybe we'll be good again. Assuming they also fire GP and Smart.



    ...Or they can just sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunks View Post
    IF, now mind you this is a long shot, but IF George Maloof dies from a cocaine overdose, AND Joe and Gavin win a 200+ million dollar powerball/megamillions jackpot...Then maaaaaaybe we'll be good again. Assuming they also fire GP and Smart.

    ...Or they can just sell.
    Call me crazy, but I think if they weren't broke *** owners, things would be a little different right now. There'd at least be an arena deal in place, and probably a better than bargain-basement coach working this team.
    I appreciate a good math pun - as long as it isn't too graphic.

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    The problem is, for as long as we have sucked we should have a better young nucleus than we do.. Being 6 (?) years in the lottery... and we still have nothing definitive to look forward to out of that.. Demarcus is a mercurial, inconsistent talent who has holes in game off/on the court, and were pretty much already resigned to Reke being a quality role player. T-Rob? Jimmer? etc. etc., we've sucked too long to not have young talented core by now.. and at least one definitive all star player, and that is depressing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsfan23 View Post
    Demarcus is a mercurial, inconsistent talent who has holes in game off/on the court, and were pretty much already resigned to Reke being a quality role player.
    Neither of those things is necessarily true. + Thornton. But blowing th last two lotteries has certainly been disastrous.

    Biggest thing remains COACHING. Organization. Good coaches have gotten a lot more out of a lot less than we have right now.
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    Yes, I do think they will be good again. They have been good several times this season already. In fact on several occasions they have been better than their opponent. It's all relative. How good do you want them to be? I have seen them play good on several occasions this year. They weren't bad in beating the Lakers. They might be good again before the first of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pshn80 View Post
    Yes, I do think they will be good again. They have been good several times this season already. In fact on several occasions they have been better than their opponent. It's all relative. How good do you want them to be? I have seen them play good on several occasions this year. They weren't bad in beating the Lakers. They might be good again before the first of the year.
    Come on. This is hogwash. If this line of thinking is true then it means the Charlotte Bobcats were good at different times of the year last year. Every NBA team will look "good" from time to time but to say it's all relative makes no sense. The Kings are not "good" this year just as the Bobcats were not good last year.
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    I agree with the expectation of improvement after having high lottery picks for many years in a row. In some ways the team is worse. That suggests that the picks were not the best, but it especially suggests below average coaching.

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    Somebody else posted something in a different thread that was a really good summary of why the Kings are in the position they are in now but it was something like:

    1. Drafting Jimmer and TRob
    2. Trading for Salmons
    3. Signing Outlaw
    4. Extending Smart
    5. Signing Hayes

    Basically these 5 moves have completely destroyed our team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    Neither of those things is necessarily true. + Thornton. But blowing th last two lotteries has certainly been disastrous.

    Biggest thing remains COACHING. Organization. Good coaches have gotten a lot more out of a lot less than we have right now.
    True or not we have our team and coaches and still win ball games. Our stars, our team, our coaches will all get better and the sooner the better. It would be fun having Brick run the team but it ain't gonna happen. I'd be willing to donate my outside shot
    (which I had before I hit 70) but it ain't gonna happen. We are what we are and I hope we play a little better tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP777 View Post
    Somebody else posted something in a different thread that was a really good summary of why the Kings are in the position they are in now but it was something like:

    1. Drafting Jimmer and TRob
    2. Trading for Salmons
    3. Signing Outlaw
    4. Extending Smart
    5. Signing Hayes

    Basically these 5 moves have completely destroyed our team.
    Don't agree that any of the five have destroyed our team.

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