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Thread: Grades v. Blazers 12/8/2012

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    Grades v. Blazers 12/8/2012

    Good good. First road win. Guys stepped up. Happy bunch. And on national TV too. Well..NBATV. Close enough for us.

    No relevant complaints.

    BTW, as if in answer to all the sky is falling posts and threads, we're now 5-5 in our last 10 games and Cousins and Reke (when we see him) are both playing as solidly as we have seen them.

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    Stats: 36min 19pts (6-10, 3-4, 4-5) 3reb 11ast 2stl 0blk 0TO
    Salmons ( A+ ) -- well, what to say here -- the "+' becomes obvious given that we've won and that its entirely possible at age 33 John may never play another game at this level, this timely. Basically it turns out we had a spare Reke sitting on our bench. Who knew? Actually, it was similar behavior to the disastrous stint we saw in the Clippers debacle. Reke was out, so all of a sudden John decided he was the man. Except this time it was done so effectively that far from throwing things at the TV, he actually became the second pillar of our win tonight along with Cousins. He hit a three early in the game, and two more to start the third, which were huge as we blew the game open and never quite gave it away afterwards. But of course the huge thing he did on offense was notch 11 assists as the grease man. Few were nifty, although he got a nice one dfriving and dropping the little wraparound pass to JT on the baseline -- again Rekeish. But he just constantly was looking and had his head up -- the opposite of the classic head down gonna pound the ball until I can dribble around and find room to hoist a midrange jumper Salmons we all know and hate. So he made little half penetrations, similar to the oens he used to set Reke up for those two big threes the other ngiht, and just kept finding guys and finding guys. He got the ball ahead smartly on the break. Just made things easy for guys, and the Blazers never did have a handle on how o slow him down (helped that their best defender, Batum, was hobbled by a bad back and could barely play). Were a coupple of scruffy patches, including one in the late third sandwiched between a fity +1 inside, and another hit as we wnet to him to start the 4th. But no major lulls, and he was effectively agrgessive all game long. Moved well on defense as well, as most of the team seemed alert and active on that end. Were a few crossed signals mistakes leading to some open Blazers threes, but otherwise another positive. Like I say, I have no hesitation here with this "+". This was the perfromance that we needed to win this one without Reke. I just was foolishly looking for it to come from Thornton.

    Stats: 29min 12pts (4-10, 0-0, 4-5) 8reb 0ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
    Thompson ( B- ) -- played solidly int he early going, highlighted as he powered up a +1 through Aldridge to open the lead to a dozen late in the first quarter. Not much early boardowrk, but mobile on the interior defensively as we were agian getting a lot of good efforts on that end. A hint of how he would lose his late miinutes came though when the Blazers, who have the worst bench in the league, went to Luke Babbitt and Jason wasn't comfortable chasing him aorudn the perimeter and saw several threes splahsed in as he and Salmson got crossed up. Resumed solid play in the third, this time picking up the boardwork as well (we won the board battle for once), but despite neither Hayes nor Robinson being much of a factor, his minutes ended up getting curtailed on the night in the most unlikley of fashions, as the Blazers went back to Babbitt, and we substitued in Travis Outlaw from oblivion to try to match the tweenr mobility. Even more shockingly, Outlaw played so well he pinned JT to the bench with his awesomeness. In any case, it was still a solid if unspectacular game for Jason as he and Cousins are starting to consistently work the middle now.

    Stats: 34min 19pts (6-17, 0-1, 7-8) 12reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
    Cousins ( B+ ) -- if you just look at the boxscores, and the shooting numbers in particular, which remian stubbornly low, you would miss the distinct change we've been seeing in Boogie's game this past week. For the third game in a row was rock solid in there for us. Never dominant for any real stretch, but other than a number of finishes inside which rolled off the rim, did little wrong and a lot right. There were no turnovers, he's been avoiding foul tourble and the resulting fighting with refs. All of a sudden its very solid and professional. Hit a jumper right off the bat, but it was another game where he only spotted in a few of those, and besides one stupid three pointer in the late first quarter, they were all good shots. Was being smart on defense and unusually active and attentive, particularly as we finished them off ion the 4th. Was able to stay right with Aldridge when that was the matchup. Offensively got a couple of early dunks on the break and was right on the rim for most of the game, although as mentioned he had a lot of things roll off for him in there. Was different from his normal misses at the rim thoguh, because most of these looked like good in control moves and finishes that just somehow crawled off, rather than the occasionally off balnce/wild low perecentage stuff. Just hasn't been much of that since the Clipper game reset. Was strong on the glass again as those numbers are climbing back up again as even with the early season stuggles he's back in the Top 10 on the glass. In the late third helped get Outlaw going finding him with an early backdoor pass for the dunk, and took a charge against Batum that finished Batum's night, as a big collision and fall with a 270lb man is not the thing you want to do when you're trying to play throuhg a bad back. This game did not sparkle for Boogie, but he was a solid steadying presence in there while the team's real stars like John Salmons and Travis Outlaw dominated.

    Stats: 31min 12pts (5-13, 2-5, 0-0) 5reb 2ast 1stl 2blk 1TO
    Garcia ( B ) -- Cisco deserves a lot of credit for the last two wins. With Reke scratched late before each game, we've dusted off the old vet (he's not that old, but moves like he's 60) from the end of the bench, and he's 2 for 2 in providing us with nice across the board roleplaying efforts. Did not shoot particularly well, but both his threes were well timed, extending our early lead near the end fo the first quarter, and another as part of the three point barrage that opened the lead for us in the early 3rd. Gave us more help defense, and pretty much statistically played Wes Matthews to a draw, which is something you will take from your 12th man any day of the week. A steadying presence for 31 minutes out there. When's the last time Cisco got 31min? And the last time he desevred them?

    Stats: 30min 14pts (6-10, 2-4, 0-0) 2reb 3ast 2stl 0blk 4TO
    Brooks ( B- ) -- probably the weakest fo the starters, but again did just enough, and critically did NOT do just enough (as in the overdribbling/overchucking/its about me problems we have often had) to help us keep rolling. Was doing fine in the early going until the mid first quarter when he suddenly pulled up for a three off his own dribble in transition -- those were the clasic Brooks plays that made me not want him here, and I think they still come naturally to him. But in general he is trying to suppress that gunning nonsense, and we didn't see much of it tonight. After Lillard dropped a three in his face, next possession just reached out and poke stealed him to start a break that he then finished off with a nifty behidn the bakc pass to Cousins for the dunk. Not all of the transition attempts were so smooth, as he made a couple of real poor passes trying to hit Cousins ahead on the break. But at least those are passing errors, not selfish ones. Bookended his two threes in the third -- one to start the quarter, the other to end it -- when our bombing opened up the game for us. But in between started losing control of the pace, playing too fast and making numerous ballhandling errors and near errors. Steve Nash this ain't. Luckily he was surrounded by steady elite talents like John Salmons and Francisco Garcia to help steady things and slow him down. Turnovers aside, and they were the negatrive here, another efficient supprot game for Brooks. Over his last 10 games, all starts, he's averaging 26.4min 10.1pts (.527 .438 .692) 2.1reb 2.5ast 1.0stl. Not winning the games for us, but not losing them either and letting the main guys do their thing.
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    Grades v. Blazers 12/8/2012

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    Stats: 18min 5pts (2-5, 1-1, 0-0) 3reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
    Thomas ( C- ) -- playing in front of his family back in the Northwest, and it wasn't a very pretty effort. Came in and immediately got surprised by Miles Leonard hopping out on him and turned it over. Then drove into traffic and turned it over again for all intents and purposes. Hit the floor multiple times as the Blazers were bouncing him around. Got back in in the mid 4th as Smart changed his rotation patterns radically and all of a sudden was reluctant to take his starters out at all. We got a little push to push the Blazers over the edge, and IT was able to play the rest of the game in what turned into garbagetime. Hit a three to get us up 20 in the last few minutes. Remains amazing that last game IT/Jimmer/TRob all paly well as key components and we win. This game, IT/Jimmer/TRob combine for 6pts on 2-7 shooting...and we win again.

    Stats: 17min 6pts (2-9, 0-3, 2-2) 2reb 0ast 4stl 0blk 0TO
    Thornton ( D ) -- such a struggle right now...and yet somehow we keep winning without our 6th man helping at all. In the last 3 games Marcus has shot 1-7, 1-7, and now 2-9, for 14 combined points on 4-23 shooting...and we've won all 3 games. After coming in got an open court steal just before the end of the first quarter and hit the little jumper to beat the horn and make it a 30 pt lead (the one thing he did do tonight was pick up a number of loose balls for steals, although he was hardly a defensive whirlwind). But it was the only jumper he'd hit all night, as he again began to just force up out of rhythm chucks, culminating with back to back airballs with Johnson. Finally got something to go when Hayes hit him with a tight pass on the backcut for one of his staples. But he's just lost right now.

    Stats: 14min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
    Hayes ( C ) -- kind of a shrug/gentleman's C here, as there was not much to grade this on. Did deliver a beautiful pass through the needle to Thronton to ge the struggling MT his 2nd hoop, but otherwise didn't do much, didn't have anybody really to fae, and wasn't really necessary or unnecessary. Just the guy you put out there to buy a few minutes while Cousins was out.

    Stats: 6min 0pts (0-3, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
    Johnson ( INC ) -- came in and airballed a jumper immediately as the offense looked re-unsettled after the mysterious DNP-CD last time out after maybe his best game of the season vs. Toronto. Had one nice defensive moment after he ran Luke Babbitt off the 3pt line, then tracked him intot he paint as he tried to drive, and came up with the atheltic block.

    Stats: 8min 1pts (0-2, 0-0, 1-2) 2reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
    Robinson ( D+ ) -- not able to build on last game at all. Looking shaky with the ball, and physically overwhelemed by Aldridge inside as the size difference was stark. But did get a strong offensive offensive board and to the line.

    Stats: 17min 11pts (5-7, 1-1, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
    Travis F'n Outlaw AKA "the Man" ( A ) -- got the surprise call out of oblivion to come in and guard Luke Babbitt when the Blazers tried to get sneaky and go small on JT in the third. Their mistake, as it unleashed the terror that is Travis Outlaw on them. Got going after a couple of minutes when Cousins found him for an athletic dunk on the backdoor cut along the baseline. Then proceeded to opena can of whoopass on his old team. Got a steal, an offensive board, hit a baseline jumper...and the Blazers were finally forced to call a timeout in a desperate attempt to slow down the machine. Got seriosu enough that we intentionally went to him as part of a 2 for 1 situation to clsoe the third quarter...which he forced and bricked, but hey, nobody is perfect. not even Travis. In the mid 4th hit a corner three on the kick from Salmons and added another long jumper. If only all his games could be played in the Rose Garden -- yet more proof that he indeed left his game in Portland when he departed years ago.
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    I voted for Thornton, since he's the only one who did poorly.
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    I voted Outlaw, as every time he's previously had a game like this he comes back down to earth for the next twenty.

    Salmons and Outlaw played great. Salmons has been steadily improving so I'm not that shocked he did this with Reke out. Outlaw I am.

    If we could count on them both to play like this, or close to this nightly, then playoffs are no longer a pipe dream.

    Great for a night, but I personally won't put more stock in it than that, especially Outlaw and Cisco, given their history. But if Salmons/Outlaw could do even half this nightly at the SF position we're a much better team.

    I'm concerned about MT. Very.


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    Definately Outlaw... Now he has "earned" playing time...... Here coming the flying trainwreck!
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    I'm hopeful Reke returns to start on Monday in Dallas. That means Cisco is back to bench as role player with lot less minutes. Meanwhile, Salmons probably won't have to guard OJ Mayo unless Reke can't go. Travis might not get 17 minutes like he did tonight in any of upcoming road games - but he might surprise by continuing to be productive when on the floor. Thornton is currently an enigma. So I vote Cisco.
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    Garcia is finally showing what kind of game we have expected of him for the last few years. As for the poll I selected Outlaw because he's too inconsistent. At least Salmons has been consistent in his career, so I cannot pick Salmons although knowing Smart next game he's probably going to give him 20-25 minutes and Salmons will be back to his 8 point 4 rebound 2 assist boxscore.
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    We apparently invested in a time machine and shanghai'd the Cisco and Salmons from the one year when they were actually good to replace the crappy worn down versions from the last couple of years.
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    I like how Smart actually played most of the starters starter type minutes. I think this is the first time in a long time the starters have 30+minutes (with the exception of Thompson's 29 minutes). It's almost like he had a rotation out there.... Almost...
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    Wow.. all this time I thought Outlaw was just a piece of crap who signed that contract for the Kings and decided to retire on this organization's dime.. but he actually looked like an NBA player out there and his stint turned the tide of the game, or was that an alien in disguise?

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    Who's the point guard? Salmons. Eleven assists. Couldn't ask any more of the guy. I don't know if he made one wrong decision all night. It's almost like Salmons has been convinced to be the parent that this team needs. He was the MVP tonight.

    Cousins has been a normal human being for the last three games. Love it. Love it. Love it.

    They kept up a fast pace, they moved the ball. They won. On to game #4.

    PS Nice move by smart putting in Outlaw. By inference he mentioned that they weren't moving the ball with Johnson in there and couldn't get the spacing he wanted; with Outlaw at least Portland had to play them honestly and guard him on the outside. Would be nice if we could get two in a row from Outlaw like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingster View Post
    Who's the point guard? Salmons. Eleven assists. Couldn't ask any more of the guy. I don't know if he made one wrong decision all night. It's almost like Salmons has been convinced to be the parent that this team needs. He was the MVP tonight.

    Cousins has been a normal human being for the last three games. Love it. Love it. Love it.

    They kept up a fast pace, they moved the ball. They won. On to game #4.

    PS Nice move by smart putting in Outlaw. By inference he mentioned that they weren't moving the ball with Johnson in there and couldn't get the spacing he wanted; with Outlaw at least Portland had to play them honestly and guard him on the outside. Would be nice if we could get two in a row from Outlaw like this one.
    Again, fast pace caused by turnovers. Once the Blazers stopped turning the ball over our offense struggled because we weren't getting easy baskets in transition. That said, its good to see the team capitalising on such turnovers. That is certainly very important, my point is just that we can't rely on these baskets alone to win games.

    Our scrubs led the way to this blowout. Garcia, Salmons and Outlaw all played very well. Keith Smart pulled another Keith Smart in benching Jimmer ... so much for settling on one guy eh? Like others have said, we've played much better the last few games when Cousins has been playing with energy and also not getting into foul trouble.

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    So I got home late off of work, turned on my computer and went straight to the Kings box score. My reaction was as follows:

    FINAL: Kings 99-80.

    John Salmons: 19 and 11

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    Color me surprised we were able to win by 19 on the road, without Tyreke, and on the 2nd night of a back to back. It's great to finally get some consistently good basketball from this team. Looking forward to seeing Tyreke and Cousins get some real floor time together.

    While we're still waaay outside the playoff picture, this 3-game win streak at least keeps that hope alive for us.

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    lets pray to god that this doesnt mean Smart throwing Garcia and Salmons out there when Tyreke is back.

    good win though. Cousins playing well but needs to work on finishing around the rim

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    Felt good to get a road win and three in a row.
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    Awesome win. Caught the replay at a friend's house. If this team can play like this when Reke comes back and whenever MT starts going again, this team is going to be dangerous.

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    I have ripped Salmons a few times this year but jesus christ he looked like the right handed James Harden out there 2night, best game I have seen him play. The 3 ball killed Portland 2night and yeah as mentioned the Sac Scrubs all deserve A's top effort winning 3 in a row.

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    How funny would it be if Salmons were the perfect Beno 2.0? I can only wish. John should be having a good time living his dream of being a PG

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    this was pretty brilliant, especially on defense. haven't seen these guys having that much succes on d for a while now.
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