Which of these players gets traded before the deadline?

[Bricklayer]

What trade do you think they would take? I don't see any. Maybe Varejao for Evans and Cousins, though even this trade is projected to make them worse by 3 losses (not that I think the Trade Machine projection means much).

You simply have to be kidding.

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

No. Cleveland isn't going to trade Varejao for any combination of players the Kings can offer, let alone the ones you listed.

I disagree. They may be able to find a better offer out there, but it would be close to the one I suggested.

The tricky thing with Cleveland .. one that works in our favor, is that they do not have any bad contracts to dump, so money shouldn't be an issue.

If they want more, we have ways to sweeten the pot. Drop outlaw from the deal, give them Isaiah Thomas, who could be an awesome backup PG for them on the cheap behind Irving, give them Thomas Robinson, a top 5 pick, and we could drop our protection on the pick we already owe them from the Hickson deal... which would allow them to take our first round pick for this years draft .. likely a top 10 pick if we don't improve.

How many teams will be able to beat

Isaiah Thomas
Thomas Robinson
Top 10 / potentially top 3 pick

For Varajao

This also allows them to ship their asset to a bad western conference team... a team they will likely never have to play for anything significant. We are an ideal trade partner in that regard.

As far as a young players package goes, that is a good one. If they want proven veterans, we simply cannot help them. But if that is what they wanted .. then why wouldn't they just keep him?

[Npliam]

Fans of a team aren't very good and coming up with trades for their team.

[UK_King]

What trade do you think they would take? I don't see any. Maybe Varejao for Evans and Cousins, though even this trade is projected to make them worse by 3 losses (not that I think the Trade Machine projection means much).

That trade would get Geoff Petrie arrested.

[UK_King]

Here's an article on Varejao, opinion on his trade value/probability.

http://nba.si.com/2012/12/04/anderso...and-cavaliers/

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Here's an article on Varejao, opinion on his trade value/probability.

http://nba.si.com/2012/12/04/anderso...and-cavaliers/

The deal I mentioned is along the same lines as the ones mentioned in this piece.

[Čarolija]

As long as Cousins and Evans remain, I couldn't care less if anyone else get traded as long as we get a player that fits a need. Having said that, I wouldn't trust Maloofs as far as I could throw them so I am fully expecting Cousins and Evans to be trade for some have beens!

[bajaden]

The nice thing about being a fan of most other NBA teams is that you can answer a question like this by looking at the roster and seeing what holes need to be filled to improve the team and then looking at what player or players might be moved to make those improvements.

With the Kings, I'm not sure where "building a better team" even ranks on the list of priorities. Would they trade Tyreke because they don't foresee paying the money it will take to keep him? Is Grant's badmouthing of Cousins a precursor (as it has been in the past) that they are planning to ship him out? Will they refrain from using Garcia's ending contract (a big trade piece) as bait because they want to keep costs/salaries down as they attempt to move the team? Are the Maloofs purposely being passive about roster changes because alienating the Sacramento fan base plays into their plans to move? And then there are even more behind the scenes considerations such as: Are agents using any amount of clout to avoid their clients being dealt to Sacramento given the state of the franchise?

I don't actually have answers to any of those questions.

Given that Petrie has never been big on trade deadline deals (most of his big transactions have been during the offseason) and the uncertainty around the franchise I'm assuming none of them will be moved, but I've long since stopped trying to guess or make sense of what the Kings front office does.

In general your right, but when he does make a deadline trade, its usually a fairly big one. Mike Bibby was traded at the deadline. As was Peja, and Walt Williams. I'm sure there are a few more, buts thats all that springs to mind right now.

[bajaden]

I like that trade a lot. I like the starters and I like that 2nd unit.

Brooks/Jimmer PG
Evans/Thorton SG
Salmons/Johnson SF
Cousins/Thompson PF
Varajao/Hayes C

Varajao is a PF and Cousins is a center. Other than that, everything is peachy.

[HereWeVivek]

Hopefully Jimmer AND Isaiah. and garcia for that matter. lets hope this team can pull something off.


also, if Tyreke gets traded,so does my dedication to this team

[HereWeVivek]

As long as Cousins and Evans remain, I couldn't care less if anyone else get traded

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[VF21]

You simply have to be delusional/insane/lobotomized.

Fixed.

[panda]

Personally, I'd rather they trade Thomas for Tyler Hansbough. Not sure what the salary differences are, but Tyler has a nice shot and is a good rebounder for the Pacers. Unfortunately he wouldn't address the lack of passing on the Kings or provide veteran leadership for Cousins. Is Luke Walton still with the Cavs? Maybe some sort of 3 way to jettison Outlaw and Hayes as well as Thomas.

*edit* Giving Garcia some minutes would help the passing

[Tetsujin]

Personally, I'd rather they trade Thomas for Tyler Hansbough. Not sure what the salary differences are, but Tyler has a nice shot and is a good rebounder for the Pacers. Unfortunately he wouldn't address the lack of passing on the Kings or provide veteran leadership for Cousins. Is Luke Walton still with the Cavs? Maybe some sort of 3 way to jettison Outlaw and Hayes as well as Thomas.

*edit* Giving Garcia some minutes would help the passing

Any post advocating acquiring Luke Walton (he of LWVC Award fame) will not be taken seriously by me.

[twslam07]

Of those mentioned, I'd think IT is the likely choice, but who knows? All depends on what you want, and what the other team wants in return. Lets be honest, there simply isn't a great demand for 5'9" PG's. And I'm not trying to be critical of IT. I just don't think that good teams sit around and say to themselves, man, you know what, if we could just aquire I. Thomas from the Kings we'd be over the hump. I'm sure that IT is well recieved around the league, but he's more than likely thought of as a backup PG.

The bigger question is, how is Tyreke being percieved by Kings management now. Are they looking at him as a keeper as part of the foundation of the Kings, or as someone they can get a good return on in a trade. I hope its the former, but I really have no idea. I think Cousins is untouchable, and the only other player that might have significant trade value is Thornton. Unfortunately, I think we fans overvalue Thornton as compared to the rest of the league. Thornton is an undersized SG who is a streak shooter. His shooting percentage was lacking last year, and its lacking this year. His defense while respectable, is nothing to write home about. He probably has more value to us, then to another team.

I think we do overvalue Thornton. I know I have in some of the trades I propose. I'm starting to think he has as much value as J. Crawford. Possibly less.

[twslam07]

What trade do you think they would take? I don't see any. Maybe Varejao for Evans and Cousins, though even this trade is projected to make them worse by 3 losses (not that I think the Trade Machine projection means much).

It would be difficult for us to trade with the Cavs because they have talented and young guys at every position. Irving, Waiters, Gee, Thompson, Varejao/Zeller.

SF would probably be their biggest concern, but unfortunately, SF is our biggest concern as well. The only thing that Cleveland would be truly interested in would be our pick. If we change the terms of our pick with them and make it unprotected, then we might be on to something. I might be intrigued by a Thornton and unprotected 1st for Varejao, but it might take a Thornton, Robinson, unproctected 1st package to pry varejao away.

[Gary]

Personally, I think anyone on the team could be traded if the right deal came along. I have a feeling our higher profile players will be shopped but we will end up trading one of our bench guards when it's all done.

I would LOVE if we could snag Mullens from Charlotte. He's been someone I had watched since he was in high school and he's one of those players that ould be pretty good in this league if given a good chance. Not star material but VERY solid, like a rich man's JT. And having 2 JTs on the team is not bad at all with their work ethic.

[hrdboild]

Personally, I think anyone on the team could be traded if the right deal came along. I have a feeling our higher profile players will be shopped but we will end up trading one of our bench guards when it's all done.

I would LOVE if we could snag Mullens from Charlotte. He's been someone I had watched since he was in high school and he's one of those players that ould be pretty good in this league if given a good chance. Not star material but VERY solid, like a rich man's JT. And having 2 JTs on the team is not bad at all with their work ethic.

Mullens will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, but Charlotte is actually winning for the first time in forever and he's a big reason why. You have to figure they're going to match whatever offer he gets, even if it means overpaying. He's a good young player though. We could certainly use a guy like that, but I don't think it makes sense to have Cousins, JT, Robinson, and Mullens on the same roster. If you pay Mullens you're paying him to play. Maybe if we end up trading JT he's someone we could look into, though like I said, Charlotte would be dumb not to match.

[Tetsujin]

Mullens will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, but Charlotte is actually winning for the first time in forever and he's a big reason why. You have to figure they're going to match whatever offer he gets, even if it means overpaying. He's a good young player though. We could certainly use a guy like that, but I don't think it makes sense to have Cousins, JT, Robinson, and Mullens on the same roster. If you pay Mullens you're paying him to play. Maybe if we end up trading JT he's someone we could look into, though like I said, Charlotte would be dumb not to match.

If by winning, you mean having a record that's only one game better than ours, then yes they are winning.

[Bricklayer]

Indeed, I have long thought that damn! If we could just replace one of our 55% shooting roleplaying PFs with a 38% shooting 7 footer off a bad team, we'd be set man.