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    Worst Jump shooters since 2000-01 season

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...-jump-shooters

    5. Josh Smith
    4. Blake Griffin
    3. Roy Hibbert
    2. Andray Blatche


    1. Tyreke Evans | G | Sacramento Kings
    eFG% on jumpers: 32.4 percent (11.0 percent lower than NBA average) | Brick Index: 1.98
    Even as Evans was looking like a future star during his rookie season, his weak shooting stood out as a deficiency he'd need to correct in order to reach his potential. Now in his fourth season, it's becoming clear that Evans is probably never going to fix the problem. In fact, his eFG% on jumpers since the lockout is actually 3.2 percentage points worse (relative to the league average) than it was in his first two seasons. Evans is a career 76.6 percent foul shooter, so he has the stroke to be decent from the field, but it's all about shot selection. Evans takes nine jumpers per 40 minutes despite the poor conversion rate, and most of those shots come after taking on the defense by himself (only 23.8 percent of his made jumpers are assisted). The conundrum with Evans is that he can't play effectively without the ball in his hands, but also can't be trusted to call his own number less when he does have the rock. Unless he solves that dilemma, expect the bricklaying to continue.
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    For starters, stop all the fundamentally flawed fade aways - even on wide open shots! Otherwise the "bricklaying" will continue infinitum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 101 View Post
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...-jump-shooters

    5. Josh Smith
    4. Blake Griffin
    3. Roy Hibbert
    2. Andray Blatche
    Well let's just hope and pray that his shooting %s of the last few games continues! Also - this just goes to show you how effective he is at getting to the rim. Any other guard with such a bad outside shot would be entirely ineffective on the offensive end.

    Good to know you're feeling happy and pleased with yourself for finding something that criticizes Evans. Must be an early Christmas present for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well let's just hope and pray that his shooting %s of the last few games continues! Also - this just goes to show you how effective he is at getting to the rim. Any other guard with such a bad outside shot would be entirely ineffective on the offensive end.

    Good to know you're feeling happy and pleased with yourself for finding something that criticizes Evans. Must be an early Christmas present for you.
    The stats eliminated shots at the rim. This is based purely on jump shots over his career.

    It wasn't like I was looking for the info, it was right there on ESPN's NBA page.
    All in all you're just another brick in the wall. - Pink Floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 101 View Post
    The stats eliminated shots at the rim. This is based purely on jump shots over his career.

    It wasn't like I was looking for the info, it was right there on ESPN's NBA page.
    You must have passed out when you saw this, from all the blood in your body rushing to one spot, lol.

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    wow. that's truly revelatory!! i feel like i've stumbled onto the secret of life, the fountain of youth, the cave of wonders, the genie of the lamp, the city of gold, the monolith from 2001: a space odyssey, atlantis!!

    or... wait a minute... this article's just telling me what i, and everyone else at kingsfans.com already know? you mean... this isn't something earth-shattering?!

    darn. drat. dang. damn.



    prior to his injury, evans was showing major improvement in every major category of criticism that his detractors could level at him, including his jump shooting percentages. it may be a small sample size, but this team (and its fans) must look forward if there is to be even the smallest sliver of hope for improvement across time...
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    I agree with PurpleHaze. Only some players can really succeed with all of those fadeaways. Some pure shooter like Kobe can make a living doing it. For mere mortals like Evans going back to the fundamentals of shooting with a vertical shot are one of the sure fire ways to improve his shooting percentage. The step-back has become popular of late, but it is not for everyone either.

    I played with a guy in high school that shot all of his shots the same, like a piston, straight up and straight down. He amazed everyone when we were college roommates and he walked on at the Univ of Maryland, and made the team playing for Lefty Dreizell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 101 View Post
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...-jump-shooters

    5. Josh Smith
    4. Blake Griffin
    3. Roy Hibbert
    2. Andray Blatche
    Yeah, but what about in the last 5 games he played in...LOL! He's been unbelievable. Even better than Jimmer for the season.
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    shaq wasnt much of a jump shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupacabra View Post
    shaq wasnt much of a jump shooter.
    Shaq was 7'1" w/o shoes, had a 7'7" wingspan, had a max vert of 36", and weighed 303 lbs coming into the NBA. I think he gets a pass on this thing we call a jump shot...

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    Why are the last five games ignored? Reke's jump shot was falling like rain. He seemed to have what we all have been waiting for. This seems to be an odd time to pick on him.
    Upwards and onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twslam07 View Post
    Shaq was 7'1" w/o shoes, had a 7'7" wingspan, had a max vert of 36", and weighed 303 lbs coming into the NBA. I think he gets a pass on this thing we call a jump shot...
    lol

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    As a Reke hater, I fail to believe Rondo has a better jumpshot. This article is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    I fail to believe Rondo has a better jumpshot
    gotta agree with that one

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    You know what? If and when Tyreke improves his jumpshot, ESPN will be the last place to know about it. Even without the numbers it's obvious to anyone who's been watching this team that Tyreke's shooting has been a serious problem. I think the mental part of it was a much bigger issue than the mechanical side. And what I've seen from him this season is much better shot selection, even during the ugly first few weeks when nothing was falling for him.

    And Kobe is anything but a pure shooter. He's a workaholic who's willed himself into being a good shooter by sheer repetition and refinement. He had some pretty ugly shooting numbers early in his career too.
    Defense matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    Why are the last five games ignored? Reke's jump shot was falling like rain. He seemed to have what we all have been waiting for. This seems to be an odd time to pick on him.
    It's a statisticlly analysis of the last 12 years not something specific to Evans. It takes into account the players entire career not specific time frames.
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    I don't think anyone would call Evans a streak shooter - because that implies he's good or even decent jump shooter. What I do know is, the guy is inconsistent with his jump shooting form. From one game to the next, one quarter to the next, even one possession to the next - it's fundamentally flawed. Has there been some some shooting improvement of late, yes, but obvious flaws keep rearing their ugly head. And has been said a million times, if he ever developed as a consistent outside threat - he'd simply be unguardable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 101 View Post
    It's a statisticlly analysis of the last 12 years not something specific to Evans. It takes into account the players entire career not specific time frames.
    Why is this important if it is not meant to apply in some way, probably negative, to Reke? If it is not meant to be about Reke, post it in the NBA section.
    Upwards and onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    Why is this important if it is not meant to apply in some way, probably negative, to Reke? If it is not meant to be about Reke, post it in the NBA section.
    It does aplly to him since he's number one on the list by a wide margin. I thought it was also interesting that Griffin and Hibbert are high on the list. I would have posted more info, but that's not allowed.

    Other intersting notes only 3 guards in the top 20, Evans, Westbrook and Speedy Claxton. Oh and Hickson is there at #8, C-Webb at 16.
    All in all you're just another brick in the wall. - Pink Floyd

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    Sure doesn't sound like the list is full of scrubs. Maybe jump shooting isn't all that important after all?

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