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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by UK_King View Post
    I don't know how the money looks but i assume they'd dangle Gasol.
    That would be interesting. NO would have to throw in Lopez/spare part to make it work money wise though.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by UK_King View Post
    Aren't the Lakers looking to add Anderson?
    Reportedly, but Anderson has been the best Hornet by a wide margin this season, so there is no reason to think that the Hornets would be looking to move him. They are in the middle of a youth movement, and Gasol won't get them the playoffs this year, so no reason to bring him in.

    I liked the idea of bringing Gasol in to mentor Boogie during Gasol's decline (which should be a graceful one -- the man never jumps, so his knees should hold up for another 5 or 6 years,) but the skillsets are overlapping to the point that they are effectively identical. If Adelman was the coach, he could get the two to work together, but with Smart, we need to look for complementary pieces so that the decision making process is so obvious that even a caveman could do it.

    The obvious trade partners to me are Milwaukee and Denver. Denver for one of their eleven or so small forwards and Milwaukee for a shot-blocking big man.

    Denver we might be able to talk out of a Wilson Chandler for Garcia's expiring, but I would venture a guess that they can get a better offer than that elsewhere.

    Milwaukee, unfortunately, wants to ship out one of its two gunny backcourt midgets, and their asking price for an Ellis or Jennings (plus insert random shotblocking bigman here) would be Tyreke. Would you do a Tyreke plus T-Rob swap for Monta Ellis plus Henson? The big-man rotation starts being a little more sensible, but now you have another gunny backcourt midget taking shots away from your dominant center.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hadlowe View Post
    Reportedly, but Anderson has been the best Hornet by a wide margin this season, so there is no reason to think that the Hornets would be looking to move him. They are in the middle of a youth movement, and Gasol won't get them the playoffs this year, so no reason to bring him in.

    I liked the idea of bringing Gasol in to mentor Boogie during Gasol's decline (which should be a graceful one -- the man never jumps, so his knees should hold up for another 5 or 6 years,) but the skillsets are overlapping to the point that they are effectively identical. If Adelman was the coach, he could get the two to work together, but with Smart, we need to look for complementary pieces so that the decision making process is so obvious that even a caveman could do it.

    The obvious trade partners to me are Milwaukee and Denver. Denver for one of their eleven or so small forwards and Milwaukee for a shot-blocking big man.

    Denver we might be able to talk out of a Wilson Chandler for Garcia's expiring, but I would venture a guess that they can get a better offer than that elsewhere.

    Milwaukee, unfortunately, wants to ship out one of its two gunny backcourt midgets, and their asking price for an Ellis or Jennings (plus insert random shotblocking bigman here) would be Tyreke. Would you do a Tyreke plus T-Rob swap for Monta Ellis plus Henson? The big-man rotation starts being a little more sensible, but now you have another gunny backcourt midget taking shots away from your dominant center.
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    No to Ellis for anything.
    I don't disagree. Ellis doesn't fit as anything on a contending team except as a super sixth man and Thornton already does that for much cheaper. But if you had to take Ellis to get a paint protector, would you? What if the price was Thornton and Robinson? (I can see a Thornton Jennings backcourt working for the Bucks.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadlowe View Post
    I don't disagree. Ellis doesn't fit as anything on a contending team except as a super sixth man and Thornton already does that for much cheaper. But if you had to take Ellis to get a paint protector, would you? What if the price was Thornton and Robinson? (I can see a Thornton Jennings backcourt working for the Bucks.)
    Bucks are kinda winning, in fact are tied for their division lead (albeit a pathetic divisiion). I am not at all sure they are really in a hurry to blow anything up at the moment.
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    Make a run at Varajao with one of two deals, slightly overpaying in reality and really overpaying in reality. He's a solid pro regardless.

    Deal 1:

    Reduced protection on that 1st rounder + Jason Thompson + IT

    Deal 2:

    Reduced protection on that 1st rounder + Thomas Robinson + IT or Jimmer

    Might even consider dropping the protection if need be, this draft is going to blow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    Bucks are kinda winning, in fact are tied for their division lead (albeit a pathetic divisiion). I am not at all sure they are really in a hurry to blow anything up at the moment.
    The problem is that both Ellis and Jennings are up for big contracts at the end of the season. Conventional wisdom, for whatever that's worth, says they can only retain one, so the other needs to go before deadline to bring back some talent.

    Same deal with Utah, but Millsap is an older T-Rob, and Jefferson is a slower Cousins, so I'm not eager to make a deal on either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadlowe View Post
    The problem is that both Ellis and Jennings are up for big contracts at the end of the season. Conventional wisdom, for whatever that's worth, says they can only retain one, so the other needs to go before deadline to bring back some talent.

    Same deal with Utah, but Millsap is an older T-Rob, and Jefferson is a slower Cousins, so I'm not eager to make a deal on either of them.
    Just glancing at theis salary structure they're fine for next year. Ellis is already earning $11mil per. He won't earn much more than that next time if at all, so its not going to add anything. And they only have $40mil committed, and Jennings is restricted.
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  9. #29
    From Realgm.com

    Pau Gasol will sit indefinitely due to tendinitis in both knees, but sources say it is not because a trade is in the works by the Los Angeles Lakers.

    But a source said that Mitch Kupchak recently spoke with Gasol's representatives that the Lakers would explore trade possibilities if he cannot adjust to Mike D'Antoni's system.

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