Not only that, but you would have above average playmakers at 4 out of your 5 starting positions (Calderon, Evans, Salmons, and Cousins). There should be plenty of easy looks to go around if they focus on TEAM play.Originally Posted by The_Jamal
Not only that, but you would have above average playmakers at 4 out of your 5 starting positions (Calderon, Evans, Salmons, and Cousins). There should be plenty of easy looks to go around if they focus on TEAM play.
we can have him if we want. rudy gay trade hinges on a 3rd team taking calderon and his 10mill expiring contract
Remember the past, look to the future.
Kings get: Jose Cauldron
Memphis gets: Ed Davis, Aaron Brooks, Marcus Thornton
Raptors get: Rudy Gay
SOLD! But any chance we could get them to take Salmons? They may like that- expires sooner and that deal takes off 10m for them next year.
Oh, and who is Jose Cauldron? Sounds like a scary talent.
Unfortunately, with all the Maloofery going around, there's no way we are a part of any trades until after new ownership takes hold.
Plus, I doubt Levien would want to help bolster our roster with any trades while Petrie is still here. Man, it's sad that we could potentially pick up a play making, pass first, defense fifth point guard that creates for other players. Maybe we could get lucky and get him on the cheap this offseason.
I'm not sure we couldn't make a trade involving minor players. And I think Memphis would rather have Salmons than they would Thornton. They're trying to shed salary, and Thornton doesn't fit that scenario. As for getting Calderon on the cheap during the offseason, I really doubt that will happen. He's going to make pretty good money one way or the other. At the moment, a team that I'd expect to be trying to get involved is the Celtics. I don't know what they would be willing to offer, but if they could plug Calderon in Rondo's spot, they probably wouldn't miss a beat. And they'd have the extra advantage of Calderon being an great outside shooter.
Its hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
I can see a scenario where Salmons is involved in trying to replace their hole at SF. Now, this doesn't mean he'll be filling that role as a starter but is something of a stop gap. I still go back to my initial trade of Garcia or even perhaps, James Johnson. The Kings still have the ability to add that salary of Calderon. I also figured cheap as in cheaper than the $10.5 million he is making now.
With the Celtics greater need at point guard and being in a win now situation, there's definitely a better chance of him wearing the green before the deadline. Not sure how Toronto would feel about trading with inter-divisional teams though. He would be a great fit in terms of deferment of role, but that would be the same case here. I still wouldn't mind having a player of his caliber on this team but the window of opportunity for us to fully utilize his abilities seems to have closed. The longer we wait for other (potential) moves to take place within this organization, the less it makes sense to take on a $10.5 million dollar contract, even if it makes a team better for all of 30 games.
ya thanks for nothing AGAIN Petrie, we could easily get Calderon. hell we could even get Gay if we really tried
Sam Amick @sam_amick
Story to come on Rudy Gay deal between Memphis and Toronto. Jose Calderon headed to 3rd team - Detroit, Boston, Dallas in mix.
Before venting, you might want to consider that with the ownership situation right now, we're unlikely to make any major trades.
Memphis could totally use MT in that 6th man role they lost when they traded Mayo.
Cause, ah...MT is so great in a bench role....n stuff...
Optimism FTW!!
which is even more frustrating. but even before this ownership situation he wasnt doing crap
looks like Detroit gave up Prince to get Calderon from Memphis
Very true, but I suspect that also had a lot to do with the Maloofs, who have the final say. I've heard rumors that come from within the orginization, that Petrie was working on some things that might happen before the trade deadline, but when the Maloofs made the deal with Hansen and Seattle, everything was shelved. Which makes sense.
Its hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Prince, Daye and 2nd rounder.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall. - Pink Floyd
now they are saying just Prince and Daye, no draft pic.
but what the hell is Memphis doing? they have a good team, playing well, and they are blowing it up
Gay isnt that great. He's the Marcus Thornton of SFs. Gives you inefficient scoring, and not much else. They were better last season without him, but I think part of that was also having Mayo off the bench as a scoring punch.
Optimism FTW!!
This was a great trade for the Grizz. Davis is better than Spreights and Haddaddi, Daye is a good prospect (6'11 and can play guard), and Prince brings a good veteran presence and talent. I doubt Calderon signs with Detroit after the season, but Drummond & Monroe will be beasts for the duration with him feeding them.
Kings could have easily matched the Daye and Prince offer.
Memphis is over the luxury tax, and next year the penality increases even more. The owner wants to get under the luxury tax. That means he has to sacrifice one of the high paid players on the team, and basicly take back little in return. There's a deadline, for the year that locks in your salary, regardless of what happens after that. I don't remember that date, but obviously Memphis is trying to cut payroll, and I guess they think losing Gay will hurt them less than losing Randolph or Gasol. And they're probably right.
Its hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Calderon and Gay have something in common. Big money contracts. The Maloofs were never going to add a big money contract, so no deal.
Name a player on the Kings as good as Tayshaun Prince? I see only two, Cousins and Evans. I could also argue that Ed Davis would start if he were on the Kings.
The word in the media is that the Grizz are making decisions based on Analytics. You know Billy Beane style. You get your Harvard number cruncher and have him run Production vs. Cost analysis on every player and you get/keep the ones who cause wins at a lower cost. It works for the A's in Baseball.
Anyhow The Kings were never going to get Rudy Overpaid or Jose Assistmaker because of no $$$ and better talent was being offered.
I pity Petrie. Being a Kings fan and getting Maloofed has been a struggle. Imagine if you are the GM!!!
KB
Onward!
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.
What do we have, that we would be willing to give up in exchange for half a season of Calderon, that is better than Prince/Daye? I don't see anything. Especially when you consider that in trading away Gay the Grizz were going to want at least one SF back, and that's the one position we can't really fill.Kings could have easily matched the Daye and Prince offer.
Frankly, it's the Detroit side of the deal I don't get. They're not in contention, and they've got adequate depth (Stuckey, Bynum) and youth (Knight) at the PG. But they give up their best defensive 3 and probably their highest-ceiling 3 and leave themselves with basically Singler and Nothing at the SF in order to add an expiring PG. Maybe it's rent-to-buy on Calderon, but either Singler is going to be playing 48 minutes or you're going to be seeing some Calderon-Knight-Stuckey lineups, and if they're going to do that they may as well trade for Keith Smart while they're at it.
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