We need to trade Cousins, but have to wait for his value to improve...

[Bricklayer]

I am so very glad I am not in Sacto, and wouldn;t listen to Napear if I was. lsitenign to him and his prescreened callers would drive me batty.

[Reke 13 Havoc]

Would you give up Evans for a LA/DMC frontcourt? JT/Hayes off the bench, Trob has time to develop. Of course, it created another, substantially larger problem...

Tyreke has been my favorite player since we drafted him. But yes I think I would. I'm a huge Aldridge fan

[itzcoatl]

Does anyone have any idea for solid vets that are available via trade that would be a stabilizing presence for the team?

My quick review of some of the teams at the bottom of the standings brings up some interesting players, but I'm completely speculating as to their availability. What would you guys think of acquiring: (1) Marcin Gortat - (maybe for a Marcus Thornton trade? Salaries appear to be close); (2) Chris Kaman; (3) Anderson Varejao; (4) Glen Davis; (5) Nene? These are solid guys that can come in and play a role, in my opinion.

[itzcoatl]

Would you give up Evans for a LA/DMC frontcourt? JT/Hayes off the bench, Trob has time to develop. Of course, it created another, substantially larger problem...

Tyreke is probably my second favorite on the team after JT, but I would trade him for Aldridge in a heartbeat. I doubt Portland would, though.

[bajaden]

Why, preytell, does Portland want to trade LA? Does anyone have a link? It doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, they have a 6'9" PF playing center, so its not like they have a couple of guys waiting in the wings. I have to do some investigating.

[panda]

Does anyone have any idea for solid vets that are available via trade that would be a stabilizing presence for the team?

My quick review of some of the teams at the bottom of the standings brings up some interesting players, but I'm completely speculating as to their availability. What would you guys think of acquiring: (1) Marcin Gortat - (maybe for a Marcus Thornton trade? Salaries appear to be close); (2) Chris Kaman; (3) Anderson Varejao; (4) Glen Davis; (5) Nene? These are solid guys that can come in and play a role, in my opinion.

Gortat had an interview recently where he said he lost his passion for the game or something similar, the other 4 have been taking turns being injured. I like them as players and they would certainly be helpful when healthy. I think the Kings could get Milsap and Javale, they seem like extra pieces on their teams right now and might not cost us Tyreke or Cousins either.

*edit*
http://www.hoopsworld.com/gortat-adm...-hunger-faded/

[Prince_XY]

We can debate not trading Cousins. I think that's fair because of the untapped talent that he has.

I for one am not in favor of trading Cousins. He is just too much of a talent to give-up. But knowing Petrie guides the Maloofs/organization, stupid things can happen.

Let's say stupid thing thus happen or Cousins himself demanded to be traded. Would you be interested or will it be okay for you if we go for this trade:

Cousins and IT plus filler (Salmons or Hayes or whoever to match the salaries)

for

Drummond and Austin Daye plus Prince

We get another big man project with lots of defensive potential, a 6' 11" small forward, both of which MAY BE considered untapped talent. Plus a bonus proven veteran defensive SF in Tayshun Prince.

I think Detroit will be salivating with this offer for them to have a bad boy on their roster.

What do you guys think?

[mac]

I for one am not in favor of trading Cousins. He is just too much of a talent to give-up. But knowing Petrie guides the Maloofs/organization, stupid things can happen.

Let's say stupid thing thus happen or Cousins himself demanded to be traded. Would you be interested or will it be okay for you if we go for this trade:

Cousins and IT plus filler (Salmons or Hayes or whoever to match the salaries)

for

Drummond and Austin Daye plus Prince

We get another big man project with lots of defensive potential, a 6' 11" small forward, both of which MAY BE considered untapped talent. Plus a bonus proven veteran defensive SF in Tayshun Prince.

I think Detroit will be salivating with this offer for them to have a bad boy on their roster.

What do you guys think?

I think a Cousins-Monroe frontcourt would be very beastly.

[DesertFox]

I think a Cousins-Monroe frontcourt would be very beastly.

And slow. But I'd certainly welcome the challenge of making it work.
On the Kings side you certainly lose some talent, but with so much of it untapped the team really isn't worse, and still has tons of upside.

[Bricklayer]

I for one am not in favor of trading Cousins. He is just too much of a talent to give-up. But knowing Petrie guides the Maloofs/organization, stupid things can happen.

Let's say stupid thing thus happen or Cousins himself demanded to be traded. Would you be interested or will it be okay for you if we go for this trade:

Cousins and IT plus filler (Salmons or Hayes or whoever to match the salaries)

for



Drummond and Austin Daye plus Prince

We get another big man project with lots of defensive potential, a 6' 11" small forward, both of which MAY BE considered untapped talent. Plus a bonus proven veteran defensive SF in Tayshun Prince.

I think Detroit will be salivating with this offer for them to have a bad boy on their roster.

What do you guys think?

The vultures are circling. Unfortunately what fans don't realize is that when they are circling its because they think you are roadkill and they are coming by to pick out the choice parts of your corpse.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ted_In_Cousins

P.s. the irony here is that there is no reason, absolutely no reason at all beyonjd our own stupidity, that Andrew Drummond shouldn't ALREADY be here, NEXT to Cousins. INstead we have a #5 pick we are now DNP-CDing.

[SacKings7]

The vultures are circling. Unfortunately what fans don't realize is that when they are circling its because they think you are roadkill and they are coming by to pick out the choice parts of your corpse.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ted_In_Cousins

P.s. the irony here is that there is no reason, absolutely no reason at all beyonjd our own stupidity, that Andrew Drummond shouldn't ALREADY be here, NEXT to Cousins. INstead we have a #5 pick we are now DNP-CDing.

True, and I appear to be wrong about Andre Drummond so far. But Lawrence Frank is a much better coach than Keith (not so) Smart, and Drummond seems like a guy that needs a good coach to play to his capabilities

[Bricklayer]

True, and I appear to be wrong about Andre Drummond so far. But Lawrence Frank is a much better coach than Keith (not so) Smart, and Drummond seems like a guy that needs a good coach to play to his capabilities

Ready for the pain?

Season: 19.5min 7.0pts (.577FG%) 7.1reb 0.4ast 0.8stl 1.5blk

Last 10: 22.5min 8.0pts (.565FG%) 9.0reb 0.5ast 0.9stl 2.0blk

Last 5: 24.8min 9.4pts (.618FG%) 11.0reb 0.6ast 1.2stl 1.6blk

[mac]

Ready for the pain?

Season: 19.5min 7.0pts (.577FG%) 7.1reb 0.4ast 0.8stl 1.5blk

Last 10: 22.5min 8.0pts (.565FG%) 9.0reb 0.5ast 0.9stl 2.0blk

Last 5: 24.8min 9.4pts (.618FG%) 11.0reb 0.6ast 1.2stl 1.6blk

TRob ROY?

[Bricklayer]

TRob ROY?

Dwight Howard rookie: 32.6min 12.0pts (.520FG%) 10.0reb 0.9ast 0.9stl 1.7blk


Dwight Howard rookie per 36:
13.2pts (.520) 11.1reb 1.0ast 1.0stl 1.8blk

Andre Drummond rookie per 36:
12.9pts (.577) 13.1reb 0.8ast 1.6stl 2.7blk

[itzcoatl]

Dwight Howard rookie: 32.6min 12.0pts (.520FG%) 10.0reb 0.9ast 0.9stl 1.7blk


Dwight Howard rookie per 36:
13.2pts (.520) 11.1reb 1.0ast 1.0stl 1.8blk

Andre Drummond rookie per 36:
12.9pts (.577) 13.1reb 0.8ast 1.6stl 2.7blk

Ouch.

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

One deal I'm considering in my head -

Cousins, Salmons, and Outlaw to Boston for Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, Fab Melo, Jared Sullinger + picks.

That's the only way I'm allowing Boston to get Cousins from us if they want to keep Rondo. Give us all your young talent, take our bad salaries, and give us draft picks. I would then obviously work on something involving our guards, because my plan would be to start Evans and Bradley, which means ideally two of Jimmer, IT, Brooks, and MT will need to go. Why would I do this? Well, In a perfect world I wouldn't. I'm assuming we ARE dealing Cousins here, with a team that obviously wants him.

I want to get rid of Salmons and Outlaw. This is where we would need to take back Jeff Green. He's underperformed this season, but I think he's better than his numbers. I think he'd be better in Sacramento with a starting job and 30mpg. As a 20-25 minutes guy in Boston, on a team that needs bench SCORING ... he's not going to get that job done. That's not him. I think he can do some nice things though. He has good size for a 3. His shot is ok. He can play some defense. He's still young enough to get better.

I'm also a massive believer in Avery Bradley on the defensive side of the ball. I think he's the best perimeter defender in the league. And as I've said before, give me Bradley and Evans on defense against another teams guards any day. He can shoot the 3, he can play on or off the ball with Evans. I think that backcourt could work.

Melo is a project in the JaVale McGee / DeAndre Jordan role. I think he can be a player. Sullinger is kind of a known commodity. He'll be a solid big as long as he is healthy.

Long term you hope Evans is the guy Evans can be. You start him with Bradley for the next 8 years, You make Green the 'do a little bit of everything' SF. Robinson or Sullinger emerge as the starting 'scoring PF', Melo lives up to his potential ... and you have a Good starting unit, who could potentially destroy teams on the defensive end.

That is clearly the dream scenario in this deal. It could obviously blow up in our faces. Life of a Kings fan.

[UK_King]

Fab Melo is having his way in the D league, believe he's had some tripple doubles including one game with 15 blocks.

[bajaden]

Fab Melo is having his way in the D league, believe he's had some tripple doubles including one game with 15 blocks.

I listened to an interview with Sam Amick. Apparently he ran into Cuz in Wal-Mart after he was suspended. He wouldn't really go into what they discussed in detail, but he implied that Cuz has some problems off the court that are affecting his on court results, and behavior. I also got the impression from him that it might have been the Maloofs that reinstated Cuz, and that the Maloofs have no interest in trading Cousins. But that Petire is on board with trading Cousins. Apparently both Detriot and Boston have shown interest in Cousins. Here's an ESPN article via Sactown Royalty referencing some of this.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2012/1...-kings-maloofs

[The_Jamal]

One deal I'm considering in my head -

Cousins, Salmons, and Outlaw to Boston for Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, Fab Melo, Jared Sullinger + picks.

That's the only way I'm allowing Boston to get Cousins from us if they want to keep Rondo. Give us all your young talent, take our bad salaries, and give us draft picks. I would then obviously work on something involving our guards, because my plan would be to start Evans and Bradley, which means ideally two of Jimmer, IT, Brooks, and MT will need to go. Why would I do this? Well, In a perfect world I wouldn't. I'm assuming we ARE dealing Cousins here, with a team that obviously wants him.

I want to get rid of Salmons and Outlaw. This is where we would need to take back Jeff Green. He's underperformed this season, but I think he's better than his numbers. I think he'd be better in Sacramento with a starting job and 30mpg. As a 20-25 minutes guy in Boston, on a team that needs bench SCORING ... he's not going to get that job done. That's not him. I think he can do some nice things though. He has good size for a 3. His shot is ok. He can play some defense. He's still young enough to get better.

I'm also a massive believer in Avery Bradley on the defensive side of the ball. I think he's the best perimeter defender in the league. And as I've said before, give me Bradley and Evans on defense against another teams guards any day. He can shoot the 3, he can play on or off the ball with Evans. I think that backcourt could work.

Melo is a project in the JaVale McGee / DeAndre Jordan role. I think he can be a player. Sullinger is kind of a known commodity. He'll be a solid big as long as he is healthy.

Long term you hope Evans is the guy Evans can be. You start him with Bradley for the next 8 years, You make Green the 'do a little bit of everything' SF. Robinson or Sullinger emerge as the starting 'scoring PF', Melo lives up to his potential ... and you have a Good starting unit, who could potentially destroy teams on the defensive end.

That is clearly the dream scenario in this deal. It could obviously blow up in our faces. Life of a Kings fan.

We could probably swing this deal without the picks from Boston. I would still consider the deal though, especially if we decide we want to move on from Cousins. Sullinger has done well in his back-up role and the thought of Bradley-Reke back-court defensively is really exciting. I don't think Bradley is done developing as an offensive player either and can be a consistent 12-14 PPG guy in the future.

[Bricklayer]

One deal I'm considering in my head -

Cousins, Salmons, and Outlaw to Boston for Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, Fab Melo, Jared Sullinger + picks.

That's the only way I'm allowing Boston to get Cousins from us if they want to keep Rondo. Give us all your young talent, take our bad salaries, and give us draft picks. I would then obviously work on something involving our guards, because my plan would be to start Evans and Bradley, which means ideally two of Jimmer, IT, Brooks, and MT will need to go. Why would I do this? Well, In a perfect world I wouldn't. I'm assuming we ARE dealing Cousins here, with a team that obviously wants him.

I want to get rid of Salmons and Outlaw. This is where we would need to take back Jeff Green. He's underperformed this season, but I think he's better than his numbers. I think he'd be better in Sacramento with a starting job and 30mpg. As a 20-25 minutes guy in Boston, on a team that needs bench SCORING ... he's not going to get that job done. That's not him. I think he can do some nice things though. He has good size for a 3. His shot is ok. He can play some defense. He's still young enough to get better.

I'm also a massive believer in Avery Bradley on the defensive side of the ball. I think he's the best perimeter defender in the league. And as I've said before, give me Bradley and Evans on defense against another teams guards any day. He can shoot the 3, he can play on or off the ball with Evans. I think that backcourt could work.

Melo is a project in the JaVale McGee / DeAndre Jordan role. I think he can be a player. Sullinger is kind of a known commodity. He'll be a solid big as long as he is healthy.

Long term you hope Evans is the guy Evans can be. You start him with Bradley for the next 8 years, You make Green the 'do a little bit of everything' SF. Robinson or Sullinger emerge as the starting 'scoring PF', Melo lives up to his potential ... and you have a Good starting unit, who could potentially destroy teams on the defensive end.

That is clearly the dream scenario in this deal. It could obviously blow up in our faces. Life of a Kings fan.

I'm sorry, that is just stupid. In the classic sense of the term. It is the absolute classic steal the star for a bunch of spare parts deal that keeps top franchises on top, and keeps bottom franchises on the bottom. Avery Bradley. Jared Sulinger. Yeah, cool. Maybe we can get Jeff Hornacek and Tim Perry out of it instead. Or Aaron Afflalo and Al Harrington.

Garbage.

There is a reason why the 2nd winningest team in NBA history wants to steal OUR kids, and would cheerfully do so at the expense of its own.

I suppose I should feel lukcy at this point that Geoff Petrie wants to ravage our future to save his legacy by tryign to trade Cousins for some solid vets that will let him retire with a nice little .500 team, rather than trading him for a bunch of late round draft picks so we can acquire a new stack of Omri Casspis to anchor our rebuild.