We need to trade Cousins, but have to wait for his value to improve...

[Anthony1]

I know that 99.9 percent of you guys are going to think I'm a total dingleberry for suggesting such a notion, but Cousins has to go.


If you asked me a year ago if I'd be saying to trade away Cousins in a year, I would say that you're nuts. I would have never imagined that I'd think our team is better sans Cuz. However, after watching him play this season, it's the only logical conclusion. Dude has to go. Simple as that. He's never going to be the guy that we thought he was. His pure basketball talent is off the charts. No question about that. Trading away a young big with those kind of rare talents, must seem the most ludicros thing imaginable. The thing is, with all that talent, it really doesn't matter because he's mush between the ears.

The body language and demeanor that he shows, is just bringing this team down in the dumps. People wonder why the refs are always on him. It's freaking obvious to me why they are on him. He's the most demonsterative player in the league, from a standpoint of complaining about the calls and shaking his head in disbelief. Whenever I get to go to the Kings game, and actually watch him in person, it's even more obvious.

When you watch the game on TV, they don't always have the cameras on cousins. When you go to the game live, and can actually watch the guy at all times, it's like his complaining or pouting about 95 percent of the time that he's on the court. Always shaking his head, always looking at the refs like they killed his dog.

I was at the Lakers game last Wednesday, and there was this one part of the game, where Cousins was coming out of the game, and two Lakers fans were heckling him as he walked towards the bench. He stopped and went over to where they were, and started shouting at them. Then he walked to the bench, and told a security guy about them. Then, he was on the bench, and kept looking over to where the two yahoos were.

All of this was going on at a certain point in the game, when the outcome of the game was still very undecided. Cousins, is just never going to be the leader that we need him to be. He's never going to be the player that we need him to be. I never would have thought that Greg Monroe would have actually been the better way to go. Everytime I see Monroe play, I shake my head like Cousins is always shaking his head.



BY THE WAY


While I do think that Cousins is a cancer that we must remove from our team, I'm not willing to let him go in ANY kind of a firesale whatsoever. We have to get LEGIT, top talent in return. So, obviously, we need to continue to give him big minutes, and try to do as much damage control as possible. We have to hope that he has some monster games, and that his trade value improves significantly. Everybody in the league knows how talented he is, but at the same time, his value has to be hurt right now because everybody also knows how much of a head case he is. We have to let time wash over some of these other GM's, let Cousins have some big games against their teams, and then hope that they have forgotten a bit about his transgressions, and then trade him. I can't believe I'm typing this, but it's the truth.

[Kings Faithful]

You are over reacting. Cousins has some problems but he is still a kid and is already a good player with the potential to dominate at his position. Just like we waited for rekes jumper (may or may not be here, time will tell), we need to wait for cousins maturity.

[Anthony1]

You are over reacting. Cousins has some problems but he is still a kid and is already a good player with the potential to dominate at his position. Just like we waited for rekes jumper (may or may not be here, time will tell), we need to wait for cousins maturity.

It's so funny that you mention Reke, because in year 2 I was saying he's fools gold, and while he's a good defensive player, he ain't the guy everybody thought he was.

Sometimes it's best to cut bait early..

[mac]

You are over reacting. Cousins has some problems but he is still a kid and is already a good player with the potential to dominate at his position. Just like we waited for rekes jumper (may or may not be here, time will tell), we need to wait for cousins maturity.

Yup, pretty much a very similar situation to Reke and his jumper. There will come a day when Cousins either has to show up more mature and ready to lead the team or we lose him, and he quite possibly blows up on another team.

[mac]

It's so funny that you mention Reke, because in year 2 I was saying he's fools gold, and while he's a good defensive player, he ain't the guy everybody thought he was.

Sometimes it's best to cut bait early..

So we get rid of Reke now, and we trade Cousins now. What does that leave our team with? MT as our best player? If anything Reke's improvement this season should show you the need for patience with talented players

[Kings Faithful]

It's so funny that you mention Reke, because in year 2 I was saying he's fools gold, and while he's a good defensive player, he ain't the guy everybody thought he was.

Sometimes it's best to cut bait early..

He wasn't the guy everyone though he was, but that doesn't mean he still can't be. I've resisted putting him on a pedestal but if he can achieve that jumpshot we've been waiting for then I'm willing to keep him around. It looks like that might be happening but we'll have to wait and see.

[Letsgokings13]

Jeez. Cuz would only be a senior in college right now...

[pshn80]

A good night's sleep will get you through this rough time. Maybe reading Brick's latest thread again might help.

[Bricklayer]

Another fundamentally dumb proposal thread. You people need to learn to hold your water.


I especially like the part where we sneakily wait until Cousins quits acting up and starts having routine monster games...THEN we trade him. Brilliant.


To sum up: DeMarcus is the most talented player the Kings have drafted in 27 years in the city. He's probably the 2nd most talented player to ever put on a Kings jersey. So no, you don't trade him. If history is any guide 1/4 of this board may have passed on via natural causes before a franchise like the Kings has another talent of that level pass on through. So you suck it up, keep working with him, and wait on the potential. There is no other option but panicking and quitting.

[Čarolija]

Oh my!

[Big Cuz 15]

lol yeah right. put him around some vet players/coaches that know how to play the right way and he's damn near unstoppable

[Tetsujin]

[Sac.1989]

rubbish. We'll go as far as boogie takes us. We aint trading him and we aint even considering it. I wouldnt trade him for Howard

[mac]

rubbish. We'll go as far as boogie takes us. We aint trading him and we aint even considering it. I wouldnt trade him for Howard

Hmm ... interesting thought there though. I suppose it all depends how good Tyreke can become. Basically once you have an established star you only have so much time to put together a contending team. Still, I wouldn't trade Cousins unless he starts screwing up every other game on a regular basis. Nor would I offer him max money until he shows he can be a consistent player. It's been a bad start to the season for him, sadly.

[Agent23]

Lol.

[Kingster]

I know that 99.9 percent of you guys are going to think I'm a total dingleberry for suggesting such a notion, but Cousins has to go.


If you asked me a year ago if I'd be saying to trade away Cousins in a year, I would say that you're nuts. I would have never imagined that I'd think our team is better sans Cuz. However, after watching him play this season, it's the only logical conclusion. Dude has to go. Simple as that. He's never going to be the guy that we thought he was. His pure basketball talent is off the charts. No question about that. Trading away a young big with those kind of rare talents, must seem the most ludicros thing imaginable. The thing is, with all that talent, it really doesn't matter because he's mush between the ears.

The body language and demeanor that he shows, is just bringing this team down in the dumps. People wonder why the refs are always on him. It's freaking obvious to me why they are on him. He's the most demonsterative player in the league, from a standpoint of complaining about the calls and shaking his head in disbelief. Whenever I get to go to the Kings game, and actually watch him in person, it's even more obvious.

When you watch the game on TV, they don't always have the cameras on cousins. When you go to the game live, and can actually watch the guy at all times, it's like his complaining or pouting about 95 percent of the time that he's on the court. Always shaking his head, always looking at the refs like they killed his dog.

I was at the Lakers game last Wednesday, and there was this one part of the game, where Cousins was coming out of the game, and two Lakers fans were heckling him as he walked towards the bench. He stopped and went over to where they were, and started shouting at them. Then he walked to the bench, and told a security guy about them. Then, he was on the bench, and kept looking over to where the two yahoos were.

All of this was going on at a certain point in the game, when the outcome of the game was still very undecided. Cousins, is just never going to be the leader that we need him to be. He's never going to be the player that we need him to be. I never would have thought that Greg Monroe would have actually been the better way to go. Everytime I see Monroe play, I shake my head like Cousins is always shaking his head.



BY THE WAY


While I do think that Cousins is a cancer that we must remove from our team, I'm not willing to let him go in ANY kind of a firesale whatsoever. We have to get LEGIT, top talent in return. So, obviously, we need to continue to give him big minutes, and try to do as much damage control as possible. We have to hope that he has some monster games, and that his trade value improves significantly. Everybody in the league knows how talented he is, but at the same time, his value has to be hurt right now because everybody also knows how much of a head case he is. We have to let time wash over some of these other GM's, let Cousins have some big games against their teams, and then hope that they have forgotten a bit about his transgressions, and then trade him. I can't believe I'm typing this, but it's the truth.

This observation just adds to the cause for concern. There's nobody, and mean nobody that knows whether Cousins is going to continue his antics, accelerate in his antics, or actually grow up. All we have to go on is past behavior. And this year's past behavior is certainly no better than last year's past behavior. So, to put it mildly, there is cause for concern. The question I have is: How long do you let it ride? How long are you willing to wait before you decide he's worth the huge investment, or he's not worth the huge investment? I don't know the answer to that question. Petrie rolled the dice with Cousins, and we still don't know if the gambe paid off. Hence, the worry.

[Kingsguy881]

Stopped reading after he called himself a dingleberry...

[mac]

This observation just adds to the cause for concern. There's nobody, and mean nobody that knows whether Cousins is going to continue his antics, accelerate in his antics, or actually grow up. All we have to go on is past behavior. And this year's past behavior is certainly no better than last year's past behavior. So, to put it mildly, there is cause for concern. The question I have is: How long do you let it ride? How long are you willing to wait before you decide he's worth the huge investment, or he's not worth the huge investment? I don't know the answer to that question. Petrie rolled the dice with Cousins, and we still don't know if the gambe paid off. Hence, the worry.

We never get it easy do we? Our draft picks are either destined to be role players or potential all-stars with big question marks - Hawes' effort, Evans' jumpshot, Cuz's maturity, Jimmer's defense and ballhandling (I do think there's a slight possibility that Jimmer can one day be a very good player in the league. Maybe not all star level but one of the better guards. Small, but possible). And even our role players take some time to get adjusted, but the risk is much less than with guys like Evans and Cousins. We can't ever just get someone who can step in and have a pretty complete game overall.

[Kingster]

We never get it easy do we? Our draft picks are either destined to be role players or potential all-stars with big question marks - Hawes' effort, Evans' jumpshot, Cuz's maturity, Jimmer's defense and ballhandling (I do think there's a slight possibility that Jimmer can one day be a very good player in the league. Maybe not all star level but one of the better guards. Small, but possible). And even our role players take some time to get adjusted, but the risk is much less than with guys like Evans and Cousins. We can't ever just get someone who can step in and have a pretty complete game overall.

That's for darned sure. A Kevin Durant would have been nice. Or a Westbrook. You have to be a tough SOB to be a Kings' fan these days.

[Bricklayer]

Our draft picks are either destined to be role players or potential all-stars with big question marks - Hawes' effort, Evans' jumpshot, Cuz's maturity, Jimmer's defense and ballhandling

Two of these things are not like the others...