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    Bench cousins

    After the last two games, I would bench Cousins. I would make him sit next to Clfford Ray and watch. Cousins glided around the floor in a fog most of the last two games which is unacceptable. He needs to decide if he is going to play like a professional or take nights off. I agree with others that he may never earn the role of leader on this team or any other for that matter. But he needs to get up for competing every game.

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    Yes, if you want to completely lose him, bench him. Cuz is not playing well right now, but benching him and changing lineup again is not the solution. This team needs stability. Once we have stability (if we ever will) players will start to play better.

    Right now I think Cuz needs confidence. I believe he lost it because he's thinking too much. He is afraid of fouling, and you can clearly see it. I can't blame him for this, it looks like the refs are always ready to blow the whistle on Cuz, even on things other bigs are allowed to do. Of course that's just my opinion, but looking at him during the games that's what I'm seeing. And that's why he tends to disappear during the games in this first part of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass View Post
    Yes, if you want to completely lose him, bench him. Cuz is not playing well right now, but benching him and changing lineup again is not the solution. This team needs stability. Once we have stability (if we ever will) players will start to play better.

    Right now I think Cuz needs confidence. I believe he lost it because he's thinking too much. He is afraid of fouling, and you can clearly see it. I can't blame him for this, it looks like the refs are always ready to blow the whistle on Cuz, even on things other bigs are allowed to do. Of course that's just my opinion, but looking at him during the games that's what I'm seeing. And that's why he tends to disappear during the games in this first part of the season.

    well thats what he gets for whining like a school girl after every call or when things dont go his way! i dont blame the refs...
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    Cousins isn't getting benched. They already fired a coach that because he couldn't get along with Cousins......It just isn't happenening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimusRhyme View Post
    well thats what he gets for whining like a school girl after every call or when things dont go his way! i dont blame the refs...
    Cuz's problem this offseason was getting to comfortable making the 15-18 ft jump shot.
    He was draining them in the preseason, now every single time he gets the ball its at that position and he holds the ball way too long, the offense gets stagnant, and the end result isnt a good one usually.

    Seems like because of this he rarely gets in deep post position anymore and when he does he doesnt have the confidence down there anymore.

    Maybe he was better when he was thicker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimusRhyme View Post
    well thats what he gets for whining like a school girl after every call or when things dont go his way! i dont blame the refs...
    I do because thats not how you ref. Every call is to be made within the laws of the game without bias. So to say that you can understand a ref having a pre-conceived bias against a player is ridiculous.

    Any ref doing that should be fired.

    Obviously benching is Cousins is just stupid, but his "mental mistakes" as Smart likes to call it, hurt us BIG time down the stretch, he needs to find a way to stop the red mist falling because when things aren't falling for him he becomes a mess, one minute a stroke of genius, the next something a high schooler wouldn't even consider.

    He's erratic, if he wants to be the franchise player, an all star, he needs to cut out these errors, simple as that really. But obviously there's more chance of Travis Outlaw being the next coach than Cousins getting benched.
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    The theme here is a fair one. Of course he isn't going to be benched. But hurting his psyche may just help.

    An interesting aside which this brings to mind - I was at the Lakers game and when we were a ways into the 4th quarter and Cousins was still on the bench and we continued to hold a lead, a thought popped into my head "please don't put Cousins back in, he'll screw it all up".

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    Bench Cuz? How about benching all the bench players who get too many minutes and cut into his involvement in the offense? We have a coach who has a propensity to play our chucking guards too many minutes, doesn't try making Cuz more of a focal point on offense while watching these guards/wings jack up one shot after another, and obviously with lack of involvement Cuz's effort suffers, and now the solution is to bench Cuz?

    How about getting a coach who can use Cuz correctly? Lost in all this nonsense about Smart being great for Cuz is that Smart doesn't use him effectively most of the time. I'd also say the main reason Smart was extended is because he was supposed to be good for Cuz, but Cuz's impact has plummeted while Smart shows a real inability to get him the ball where he's most effective and has options moving/cutting off him.

    This almost always happens when you have too many chuckers, don't define roles and have a freelancing offense void of structure. The bigs suffer. That's nothing new in this game. So if Smart's one great asset was his ability to work with Cuz, and he's showing he can't even do that, then why is this clown still around? Simply benching him so the chuckers can chuck even more only causes more problems.

    These players aren't robots. There's also the aspect that Cuz might be fed up with Smart's shtick as many of us are. It's been pointed out repeatedly what Smart does, how he refuses to define roles and sub patterns alters a players mental approach to games. If Cuz doesn't have much confidence in Smart and is sick of his game management, then of course effort will suffer. I know some want to ignore that and think players will just run through walls for coaches they don't respect and coaches who make repeated mistakes, but that's not reality. And Cuz is very intelligent. My guess is he's just getting fed up with all the s*** many of us are fed up with. He sees the mistakes.
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    This is a very silly thread and just makes us fans look bad, not Cuz.

    That said, I think Cuz may still be pouting from the suspension -- he never came back the same. He may or may not be quitting on Smart, which actually could help us in the long run. But either way his focus is there and then not there. He may feel picked on, singled out, forgotten about, I don't know.
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    Cuz's biggest problem is our GM couldn't re-sign Samuel Dalembert when he needed to, didn't draft a more complimentary player instead of going sexy and creating a logjam of tweeners that aren't compatible, along with a distructive coach that has no clue, thus creating the losing and crappy attitude our team has now...THAT is what's wrong with Cuz right now, and I can't blame him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circa_1985_Fan View Post
    Cuz's biggest problem is our GM couldn't re-sign Samuel Dalembert when he needed to, didn't draft a more complimentary player instead of going sexy and creating a logjam of tweeners that aren't compatible, along with a distructive coach that has no clue, thus creating the losing and crappy attitude our team has now...THAT is what's wrong with Cuz right now, and I can't blame him.
    This is rediculous.

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    Smart seems hell bent on making Cuz and Reke ineffective or at least limiting their benefit to the team. It seems personal as I cannot understand why a coach would not use his most effective players or at least, use them inappropriately. I don't need to list the examples. It's as if he is threatened by their skills or something of that nature.

    Why can MT check himself into games? I've never heard of such a thing.

    Also, I think Cuz is reacting to what he sees around him in the coach and the overall situation of being a King. It's a dead end. A guy with Boogie's desire to win will not put up with what is going on now too much longer. We can all see what Smart is doing to Cuz and Reke. A simple example is yesterday when the last two starters to be re-inserted into the game in the 4th quarter were Cuz and then Reke. Explain that!

    Also, just as Reke is developing a decent jump shot and is surpassing his rookie form, Smart hasn't seemed to have noticed. Smart keeps him out of the 4th quarter because he said Utah would just wait for him at the rim. Smart seems to have no concept of what is happening with his player's development.

    But, then is Smart the overall problem? Any fool can see he needs to be fired. There are only a few people who can fire him and they are sitting on their hands. I cannot understand how the Maloof's position is helped by losing large amounts of money which is what they are doing. Sure they can say the fans aren't supporting them but if the BOG knows basketball, they will see right through that. AND ..... as there is a fee to move, what will the Maloofs use for money? The attendance in itself must be losing them huge amounts.

    If I were Boogie, I'd go nuts, too. If the Maloofs don't seems to care if they win or not, why should he?
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    Let me summarize. Cousins isn't up to snuff, it' silly to suggest benching him, it's understandable that his nose is bent because of ------------- (fill in the blank) coach, GM, his Aunt Tilly. Come folks, quit making it so easy on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    Smart seems hell bent on making Cuz and Reke ineffective or at least limiting their benefit to the team. It seems personal as I cannot understand why a coach would not use his most effective players or at least, use them inappropriately. I don't need to list the examples. It's as if he is threatened by their skills or something of that nature.

    Why can MT check himself into games? I've never heard of such a thing.

    Also, I think Cuz is reacting to what he sees around him in the coach and the overall situation of being a King. It's a dead end. A guy with Boogie's desire to win will not put up with what is going on now too much longer. We can all see what Smart is doing to Cuz and Reke. A simple example is yesterday when the last two starters to be re-inserted into the game in the 4th quarter were Cuz and then Reke. Explain that!

    Also, just as Reke is developing a decent jump shot and is surpassing his rookie form, Smart hasn't seemed to have noticed. Smart keeps him out of the 4th quarter because he said Utah would just wait for him at the rim. Smart seems to have no concept of what is happening with his player's development.

    But, then is Smart the overall problem? Any fool can see he needs to be fired. There are only a few people who can fire him and they are sitting on their hands. I cannot understand how the Maloof's position is helped by losing large amounts of money which is what they are doing. Sure they can say the fans aren't supporting them but if the BOG knows basketball, they will see right through that. AND ..... as there is a fee to move, what will the Maloofs use for money? The attendance in itself must be losing them huge amounts.

    If I were Boogie, I'd go nuts, too. If the Maloofs don't seems to care if they win or not, why should he?
    This assumes that Maloofs think things through, have strong analytical minds and as such are strong planners. If their time as Kings owners has shown us anything, it is that they are completely the opposite. They are impulsive, emotional and irrational "boys" that live in their own word. Its all about attention and status. They never think things through and there is never logic and common sense applied to their thought processes. They believe that this is how they get out of town. They are banking on poor attendances and poor aura in Sacramento to get them out of here and they are doing everything in their power to get poor attendances and stinky aura between the fans and the team and in this case, within a team itself.
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    ya this would really be great for our team, both on and off the court. SMH

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimusRhyme View Post
    well thats what he gets for whining like a school girl after every call or when things dont go his way! i dont blame the refs...

    Kobe wouldn't make it out of the 1st quarter if this game was called fairly across the board. Nobody cries more than that d-bag, not even Jason Thompson. The NBA is full of cry babies and refs with double standards. Either let them all complain or T'em all up across the board.

    Watch the reply, first T was pathetic, 2nd T did come until Cousins was walking away and bit his tongue. These refs will find anything to try and teach him a lesson.

    I love how Grant flat out said the refs are out there to "control" the game. Give me a ****ing break. NBA officiating is the worst out of all the major sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merdiesel View Post
    Kobe wouldn't make it out of the 1st quarter if this game was called fairly across the board. Nobody cries more than that d-bag, not even Jason Thompson. The NBA is full of cry babies and refs with double standards. Either let them all complain or T'em all up across the board.

    Watch the reply, first T was pathetic, 2nd T did come until Cousins was walking away and bit his tongue. These refs will find anything to try and teach him a lesson.

    I love how Grant flat out said the refs are out there to "control" the game. Give me a ****ing break. NBA officiating is the worst out of all the major sports.
    Kobe is one of the all time greats so he is able to get away with it, like it or not. Cousins is a 3rd year kid who has ALWAYS complained about every call that goes against him from the moment he came into the league. At some point he has to realize the refs are going to treat him like that if he keeps complaining. Just shut up and play hard, earn respect and eventually 3 to 4 year from now you will get the "vet" calls, or "star" calls.

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    I don't condone what cuz did it was stupid and was basically baiting the official. But people accepting that some players are "targeted" and treated differently to others is just sad.

    The refs are not there to act in a bias way, any official found to be ignoring blatant technicals or giving "soft" technicals to particular players should be FIRED. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_King View Post
    I don't condone what cuz did it was stupid and was basically baiting the official. But people accepting that some players are "targeted" and treated differently to others is just sad.

    The refs are not there to act in a bias way, any official found to be ignoring blatant technicals or giving "soft" technicals to particular players should be FIRED. Simple as that.
    While I have every respect for your opinion, in this case I fear you are at an advantage being from the UK. I'm assuming you haven't watched a whole lot of NBA basketball over the years.

    Should refs be more critical of certain players? Of course not. Does it happen in the NBA? Yep. Has for a long, long time. The officials have an almost impossible job. It's tough enough already without players getting in their faces and whining about every call or non-call. Once a player gets that rep, he is going to be given less latitude in situations where the best thing would be for him to simply suck it up, shut up and play.

    I will not use the officials as a justification for Cousins' bad behavior, but I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't happen.
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