Fire Smart, hire Brown?

[mac]

In all honesty Pjax or McMillan would probably be best suited for this team. We don't have good pick and roll players, nor do we have guys above 6'4 that can spot up for 3s in transition. D'Antoni would work if you want a lineup of Brooks/IT/Jimmer/MT on the floor at the same time. Anyone else would just be bricking transition 3s in his offense.

I doubt that Kings fans would want Jackson though. Also, interesting comment by Barkley - he feels that Jackson lost some of his drive and intensity after overtaking Auerbach.

Smart says all the right things (most of the time), and to his credit he's got the team playing defense. I'm just not sure that he has the guts to force guys into more structure, not playing certain guys and making sure the team knows the shot hierarchy that should exist. That works to his advantage in connecting with them and building team chemistry, but not so much as far as winning goes. Smart would make a very very excellent assistant coach in my mind, at least until he proves that he's at least better than Westphal was.

[King Baller]

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KB

[The_Jamal]

Mike Brown is notorious for having terrible offensive structure and having no clue how to handle a rotation. He just got lucky enough to coach the best player in the NBA for 3+ years

[SacKings7]

Fire Smart, Hire McMillan

[Reke 13 Havoc]

Mike Brown is notorious for having terrible offensive structure and having no clue how to handle a rotation.

funny, sounds exactly like Keith Smart. and were still stuck with him

[twslam07]

Fire Smart, Hire anyone with Basketball knowledge

funny, sounds exactly like Keith Smart. and were still stuck with him

We all know how much you dispise Smart. Everyday it is the same thing with you. I think literally every person on this forum knows how you feel about him.

With that being said, I think it would be a disastrous idea to fire Smart during the season. I don't think anybody here is a fan of his rotations and lineups, but our players need something to believe in. Even if it is a 12 man deep rotation. We can't continue to run through head coaches and think our players are going to develop chemistry and play cohesively.

Give Smart some time for the sake of our players. Who knows, maybe he will figure it out and find success.

[UK_King]

Lets be honest, we're not firing smart.

If we go on a disastrous 10 game spiral of blowouts he'll start taking some heat, but defensively we've stepped it up, offense is a work in progress, we've been in most games and are 2-4.

So unless Reke 13 Havoc is one of the Maloofs, Smart is here, and will be here for the foreseeable future. Like it or lump it.

[bajaden]

I'm afraid if anybody is getting Sloan it would be the Lakers.

As for Brown, he'll get another shot, but he could be doing the Westphal here, where he has his greatest success in his first stop, and then gets increasingly exposed as his career winds down.

Another thing: as long as Smart can keep the team playing defense, there would be no huge gain in bringing in an all defense no offense coach unless that coach was somebody who had stature and the ability to relate to players. Ala JVG. If the defense falls back apart, I am open to anything again.

There's not a dammed thing wrong with Brown that LeBron James couldn't fix!

[chief bromden]

Does anyone honestly think that any respectable coach (ie. Sloan or D'Antoni) would choose to coach the Kings?
On top of that, does anyone think that the Maloofs would offer a respectable coach an attractive contract?

This year is similar to watching Major League, and I hope that the Kings end up making the playoffs (don't laugh )

[bajaden]

I think the Kings would be intriguing to him. You have Jimmer ( that would be the next Jeff Hornasek) You have Aaron Brooks (Deron Williams) and use Thomas Robinson like Malone. Sacramento is closer to his home in Utah than any other place except Denver. I would be excited to see Smart gone if you could get Dantoni or Sloan. Sacramento deserves a winner!

Actually on ESPN 710 Max Kellerman says Phil Jackson is at the Lakers facility walking around. http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play

I'm a huge fan of Jerry Sloans, and would love to have him here. But a few corrections first. Jeff Hornacek never played with Williams, he played with John Stockton. I can live with the figurative comparison to Jimmer. Both are or were good shooters, and both are close to the same height. I do think Hornacek is a little better athlete than Jimmer though. I'm not sure I see Malone in Robinson. Malone was bigger and a little taller, but I can see where your going with this. The problem is, we don't have a John Stockton, the all time NBA leader in assists, and in steals. The best screen setting PG in the history of the NBA. Stockton is what made that team go.

But hey, if you can convince Sloan that this is the right team for him, I'm on board. Oh, and we don't have a Deron Williams here either.

[bajaden]

Well I know I can't see anyone else as him that is on the roster right now. Do u think Thomas is more like Williams? .

Well Williams is 6'3", 210 pounds and strong as an ox. IT is 5'9", 185 pounds. Williams is maybe the best postup PG in the NBA, and I doubt IT will post up anyone in the NBA. Williams is a lifetime 9 assist per game guy. So just off hand, no, I don't see a lot of comparison between the two.

[bajaden]

I was wondering the other day what this team would be like if we had passed on Robinson, and drafted Lillard instead. We wouldn't have signed Brooks, and we still would have needed another big man, either a PF or a center, which we could have traded for, or signed in freeagency. Lillard is averaging 18.6 PPG, and 7.2 assists a game. He's a legit 6'3", and he's a terrific athlete. And, he's a good defender. His only flaw so far is that his outside shot has been a little inconsistent. I think he's shooting around 32% from the three. But in college he was a very good shooter, so I expect that shooting percentage to rise.

Lillard is a legit PG, and a willing passer. He's extremely quick and has great hops around the basket. He was a great pick for Portland.

[The_Jamal]

I still have tremendous faith in Trob to be an incredibly valuable player for us. Before his stupid bonehead elbow, we saw growth from him game to game. He's starting to slow the game down and let his athleticism and strength be the main factors in his game while producing on the court.

[Bricklayer]

I was wondering the other day what this team would be like if we had passed on Robinson, and drafted Lillard instead. We wouldn't have signed Brooks, and we still would have needed another big man, either a PF or a center, which we could have traded for, or signed in freeagency. Lillard is averaging 18.6 PPG, and 7.2 assists a game. He's a legit 6'3", and he's a terrific athlete. And, he's a good defender. His only flaw so far is that his outside shot has been a little inconsistent. I think he's shooting around 32% from the three. But in college he was a very good shooter, so I expect that shooting percentage to rise.

Lillard is a legit PG, and a willing passer. He's extremely quick and has great hops around the basket. He was a great pick for Portland.

I understood the reluctance to risk a Jimmer pt. 2 scenario.

On the other hand we also turned down a chance to trade for Kyle Lowry with that pick. A proven physical PG who's averaging a cool 18.3pts 5.8reb 6.3ast 3.0stl 0.5blk right now on 55% shooting. That presumably won't last, but even at normal Lowry numbers he's a tough, physical defensive minded guy who would fit right in to our defensive focus now.

But anyway. We didn't, so we are where we are. I have seen nothing to indicate TRob as a star. But the last few games he and we had simplfied things so that he could just use his athleticism as an effective roleplayer. The biggest problem with that is just its like the PG situation. He's been starting to roleplayer it, but there are already two guys ahead of him (Hayes/JT) who are just as good at that and so we're just giving TRob token minutes because he was the #5 pick. If we gave JT and Chuck 6 more apiece we wouldn't lose much in the tradeoff. Petrie has always favored cluttered rosters, but this one may be the worst. Would love a quantity for quality trade in the worst way.

[swisshh]

Does anyone honestly think that any respectable coach (ie. Sloan or D'Antoni) would choose to coach the Kings?
On top of that, does anyone think that the Maloofs would offer a respectable coach an attractive contract?

This year is similar to watching Major League, and I hope that the Kings end up making the playoffs (don't laugh )

Pretty much this.

A coach of higher quality and higher pay is not coming here until the ownership situation changes.

[bajaden]

I understood the reluctance to risk a Jimmer pt. 2 scenario.

On the other hand we also turned down a chance to trade for Kyle Lowry with that pick. A proven physical PG who's averaging a cool 18.3pts 5.8reb 6.3ast 3.0stl 0.5blk right now on 55% shooting. That presumably won't last, but even at normal Lowry numbers he's a tough, physical defensive minded guy who would fit right in to our defensive focus now.

But anyway. We didn't, so we are where we are. I have seen nothing to indicate TRob as a star. But the last few games he and we had simplfied things so that he could just use his athleticism as an effective roleplayer. The biggest problem with that is just its like the PG situation. He's been starting to roleplayer it, but there are already two guys ahead of him (Hayes/JT) who are just as good at that and so we're just giving TRob token minutes because he was the #5 pick. If we gave JT and Chuck 6 more apiece we wouldn't lose much in the tradeoff. Petrie has always favored cluttered rosters, but this one may be the worst. Would love a quantity for quality trade in the worst way.

Thats another scenario that would have been interesting. I certainly could have lived with Lowery. Drafting Lillard probably would have been looked at as an admission that Jimmer isn't going to succeed, and I doubt Petrie wanted to present that image. But Lillard was the most impressive player I saw in summer league. I knew he was a good athlete, but until you see a player in person, you have no idea how good. No comparison between him and Jimmer athleticly.

[Kingster]

Lillard does look good. Didn't see him college. I did see Robinson though, and I have very high hopes for him. Sure would be nice if they could have IT run a pick and roll with the guy. He's very fast rolling to the basket, and he can finish, and if the opposing team switches quickly to cover the roll I think he's a good enough passer to get the ball to Cousins or Johnson on a quick tip pass.

[Reke 13 Havoc]

^it would be nice if this team would run any pick n rolls at all

[The_Jamal]

I understood the reluctance to risk a Jimmer pt. 2 scenario.

On the other hand we also turned down a chance to trade for Kyle Lowry with that pick. A proven physical PG who's averaging a cool 18.3pts 5.8reb 6.3ast 3.0stl 0.5blk right now on 55% shooting. That presumably won't last, but even at normal Lowry numbers he's a tough, physical defensive minded guy who would fit right in to our defensive focus now.

But anyway. We didn't, so we are where we are. I have seen nothing to indicate TRob as a star. But the last few games he and we had simplfied things so that he could just use his athleticism as an effective roleplayer. The biggest problem with that is just its like the PG situation. He's been starting to roleplayer it, but there are already two guys ahead of him (Hayes/JT) who are just as good at that and so we're just giving TRob token minutes because he was the #5 pick. If we gave JT and Chuck 6 more apiece we wouldn't lose much in the tradeoff. Petrie has always favored cluttered rosters, but this one may be the worst. Would love a quantity for quality trade in the worst way.

You're still about 2-3 years too early to make any assertions on who "looks like a star" and who doesn't. Some rooks will start out strong and then struggle after 25 games because the league has a book on them. Bigs, outside of a handful of guys the last decade, have always had a slower adjustment time than guards. What's encouraging with Trob is we've seen growth in his game and performance each and every game. He's slowing the game down and starting to take his natural talent to take over.

[Reke 13 Havoc]

I was wondering the other day what this team would be like if we had passed on Robinson, and drafted Lillard instead. We wouldn't have signed Brooks, and we still would have needed another big man, either a PF or a center, which we could have traded for, or signed in freeagency. Lillard is averaging 18.6 PPG, and 7.2 assists a game. He's a legit 6'3", and he's a terrific athlete. And, he's a good defender. His only flaw so far is that his outside shot has been a little inconsistent. I think he's shooting around 32% from the three. But in college he was a very good shooter, so I expect that shooting percentage to rise.

Lillard is a legit PG, and a willing passer. He's extremely quick and has great hops around the basket. He was a great pick for Portland.

i also wonder how much better they would be if they had drafter Kemba Walker instead of Jimmer last year

that young man can flat out play. check out his stat line tonight.