Nocioni rips tyreke

[rekehavoc73186]

http://aroyalpain.com/2012/04/15/and...-tyreke-evans/

curious to what everyone thinks about this

[upinsmoke]

In a nutshell he praised the Bulls franchise D. rose especially. Noc then followed up by saying coach westfail lacked character and has hard feeling for Evans stating the franchise needed to stricter with him. Lastly he says Sergio Rodriguez was unfairly treated min wise to appease Evans.

[Gary]

It's probably true.. You saw the way the Magoof was dancing around on the stage when we picked Evans right? I don't doubt that he's been coddled.

[hrdboild]

I'm curious what he's alluding to by saying Tyreke brought trouble in the locker room. Is it because his teammates thought he was selfish or because they resented Paul Westphal's double standards? If it's the latter than I think it's ironic that Evans has now become the cast-aside veteran losing his starting position and minutes to another rookie PG. Can't really fault Isaiah or Tyreke for their coach's (organizations?) poor decisions.

[Spike]

In a nutshell he praised the Bulls franchise D. rose especially. Noc then followed up by saying coach westfail lacked character and has hard feeling for Evans stating the franchise needed to stricter with him. Lastly he says Sergio Rodriguez was unfairly treated min wise to appease Evans.

Pretty much spot on. I saw it as Noc saying that the environment lacked order, which we saw. Also intimated that Lebron only excels because of his physical strength. His point on Rose was what we knew-great athlete, needed to improve in his all around game in order to take it to the next level, which he did.

I didn't see it as "ripping" Evans, but he does have resentment in terms of how Sergio was treated in comparison.

[upinsmoke]

I didn't see it as "ripping" Evans, but he does have resentment in terms of how Sergio was treated in comparison.

Oh he ripped Evans saying he could not say what he really fealt about Evans on t.v so it's clear there is some kind of problem between the two.

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Eh... my Google-Fu appears to be weak today, but I could swear that somebody posted this interview here a year ago.

[rainmaker]

I do remember Noc and Reke getting into it heading to a timeout. Noc really got into him, Reke said a few things, and Noc apologized to the team later. Me thinks Noc had a little problem with anyone who didn't pass it to him as he thought he was the 2nd coming of Peja. But there is truth to what he said. Was Reke intentionally a problem in the locker room? Doubt it. Did Westy create a situation where Reke was coddled and the other guys had resentment because of it? Likely. Same way vets were pissed with the Jimmer hype before the season started.

But really I don't care. This organization has F'd up the development of a number of youngsters. Nothing new. And too bad Sergio didn't get more opportunities, we might have made the playoffs....hope Noc and Sergio are having a great time playing in the 2nd best league in the world as they can't cut it in the top league.

[Bricklayer]

Rather notoriously Noc is a grumpy guy (that's code for basically an *******) and has had problems wherever he went, and nobody else has ever said that about Reke as a lockerroom presence. Indeed its very hard to imagine him as a lockerroom problem. Now Noc wanting himself or his boy to be more featured instead of Reke...that would be predictable. And in such a case the lockerroom problem would be more along the lines of Noc being, in a shocking development, upset about roles, shots etc. There have been several of those: Omri, Sergio was unhappy with his use basically everywhere he went -- Euros with big egos are a consistent theme. And of course Kevin. That was a distraction to say the least. Transfers of power are always messy, and have to leave all the role players in an uncertain state waiting for it all to shake out. But lockerroom problem as in a problem presonality? Very difficult to see to say the least.

[Kevin's Good Feet]

Sergio was on the bench because Sergio was not very good. Not to appease Evans, but because he wasn't any good.

After we waived Sergio, he went to the Knicks. That's right, the D'Antoni "I'm going to make Chris Duhon look like an actual PG and Jeremy Lin look like Magic Johnson" Knicks. He proceeded to do nothing remarkable despite being gifted a golden opportunity and then found himself out of the league. Add in an unremarkable Portland stop and the simplest explanation is just that Sergio was really flash but not very good.

[DesertFox]

I can see how the handling of Evans caused problems, not necessarily Tyreke's own actions. I remember specifically the moments at the end of games where Westphal would just give Evans the ball in the corner and let him work, defending it by saying things like "that's what Kobe/Lebron do so might as well let him do it now."

That philosophy hasn't paid off in Tyreke's development.

[Section 101]

Eh... my Google-Fu appears to be weak today, but I could swear that somebody posted this interview here a year ago.

The date appears to be april 12, 2012. But I know the one your talking about.

[BMiller52]

I do remember Noc and Reke getting into it heading to a timeout. Noc really got into him, Reke said a few things, and Noc apologized to the team later. Me thinks Noc had a little problem with anyone who didn't pass it to him as he thought he was the 2nd coming of Peja. But there is truth to what he said. Was Reke intentionally a problem in the locker room? Doubt it. Did Westy create a situation where Reke was coddled and the other guys had resentment because of it? Likely. Same way vets were pissed with the Jimmer hype before the season started.

But really I don't care. This organization has F'd up the development of a number of youngsters. Nothing new. And too bad Sergio didn't get more opportunities, we might have made the playoffs....hope Noc and Sergio are having a great time playing in the 2nd best league in the world as they can't cut it in the top league.

agree with most of this.

[Kingfanpaul]

We're talking about Noc? Seriously? Not going to say he's lying or anything, but he's going to come out and "rip" Tyreke now? When he's not even in the league anymore. Sounds like someone trying to still be relevant.

[Boogie-havoc]

I can see how the handling of Evans caused problems, not necessarily Tyreke's own actions. I remember specifically the moments at the end of games where Westphal would just give Evans the ball in the corner and let him work, defending it by saying things like "that's what Kobe/Lebron do so might as well let him do it now."

That philosophy hasn't paid off in Tyreke's development.

lol I remember that.

God I hate Westphal. To think we turned the soon to be back to back 'Coach of the year' for that lame excuse of a coach cause he interviews better. fml.

[Kingster]

I just hope the same coddling doesn't lead to the same results with Cousins. How many times has Cousins played point guard this year? It's been so many it's hard to keep count. If that's not coddling, I don't know what is. And that to me is worrisome.

[mr. moustache]

I just hope the same coddling doesn't lead to the same results with Cousins. How many times has Cousins played point guard this year? It's been so many it's hard to keep count. If that's not coddling, I don't know what is. And that to me is worrisome.

I'd rather discipline Cousins between games. He takes himself out of games when he gets disciplined during games. I'd rather have him put up 18/12 with some bonehead plays than 12/4 while he pouts and plays 18m.

Evans on the other hand is a man and can be treated like a man. His response to this year's "coaching" has been exemplary. His game can be frustrating, but it's hard to fault his willingness to be a team player.

[sidney]

I can see how the handling of Evans caused problems, not necessarily Tyreke's own actions. I remember specifically the moments at the end of games where Westphal would just give Evans the ball in the corner and let him work, defending it by saying things like "that's what Kobe/Lebron do so might as well let him do it now."

That philosophy hasn't paid off in Tyreke's development.

At the end of the game, sometimes you need a guy to take over for the last play. It's a weapon few teams have. We have one of the best although it is often forgotten.

[Prince_XY]

This is expected from a rejected player who thinks highly of himself while playing on Kings uniform. He thought he was better than anyone and probably still thinks he should had been the number one option on this team and allowed to chuck all those 3s whenever he wanted to. I do agree though that Sergio Rodriguez should have had more playing time, but the playing time should never be (and as happened) at the expense of Evan's playing time.

IMO, there was nothing wrong with coddling Evans during his rookie season. He was seen at that time as the franchise player because of his enormous talent. He rightfully deserved all those playing time and freedom for his development. And it panned out with a 20/5/5 ROY rookie season for him. Also, just remember the first 2 years of the chucking and trigger-happy Durant and it would be easier to swallow the whole idea of coddling Evans.

Also, the arrested development of Evans is completely understandable. The kid was often times injured on his second year. On his third year, Cousins became more dominating, and here comes MT trying to be the number one scoring option, and then later another ball-dominant IT trying to be one too. Not that I blame MT or IT, but the situation somehow interferes with Evans development. Remember that there is only one ball during game time. I would have to add that we should admire Evans for swallowing all these bad things and that Evans has not not complained yet regarding his development.

[Mal]

Yeah, Sergio was mistreated in Portland, Sacramento and New York and is back in Spain where he can't make the Olympic squad.