Girls v. Knicks 02/02/2013

[LWP777]

Uhhh......what the? Give some examples of this. I can't think of one instance where this has happened.

It doesn't happen. Too much money and too much publicity to just walk away from these types of jobs. There have been some occasions where a team sort of forces a coach to "step down" instead of firing him but that coaches contract would likely still be honored.

[LWP777]

I stand corrected, well, partially. The post game wrap up says they were up by as much as 50 on several occasions.

That means a lot to me Brick!

[kennadog]

This is really awful to go through. Talk about total annihilation of spirit.....team and fans.

[t-rex]

Well I heard that Cousins was bashing Smart. Said something like "his coaching is hurting my game" if this is true, im. Very happy. Good stuff Cuz

Cuz is always blaming someone else. Our most talented players lack leadership skills. There is no accountability. His technicals and constant whining is hurting his game too. This team is now like a bad car wreck you can't turn away from. At least the drama is somewhat entertaining

[Krunker]

What a debacle, maybe the Maloofs will decide they have nothing to lose since they're selling anyway and make Eyen or Jackson the head coach. It shouldn't really cost them more money...

[macadocious]

Cuz is always blaming someone else. Our most talented players lack leadership skills. There is no accountability. His technicals and constant whining is hurting his game too. This team is now like a bad car wreck you can't turn away from. At least the drama is somewhat entertaining

While the bolded may be true, that does not mean that he is wrong. It's pretty clear what he is saying. He is playing at the wing or top of the key on O. In the pre season he told the media Smart wanted him to work on his 3 pt shot. He didn't make that up. He's talking about the mess of substitutions. I missed the first half and then saw a tweet that said he started IT, Reke, Salmons, Garcia and Cousins. In what scenario does that ever make sense?

[Agent23]

I can't believe i watched every second of this game. Cheesus crust!

[rainmaker]

Cuz is always blaming someone else. Our most talented players lack leadership skills. There is no accountability. His technicals and constant whining is hurting his game too. This team is now like a bad car wreck you can't turn away from. At least the drama is somewhat entertaining

Did you read?

DeMarcus Cousins said in a rather sarcastic tone (again) that the solution to the Kings problem is to listen to Keith Smart. Cousins went on to say he's sacrificing his game by going along with Smart's plan.

He didn't blame Smart. The sarcasm might be true but it's subjective. What he actually said is the solution is to listen to the coach and that he's sacrificing his game, which many players do at times and talk about. He didn't blame anyone here. It could also be viewed as sarcasm as everyone knows listening to Smart and following Smart's game plan will not turn things around, as his game plans don't work. Not at all.

[KingsFanSince85]

Only our Kings could turn an 18-6 lead into a 44-22 deficit in a matter of minutes.

I don't care if you're the worst team in the league playing against the very best team ... A 38-4 run should NEVER happen. It's beyond ridiculous. You have to basically not care AT ALL for something like that to go down.

I recall the 80's Showtime Lakers with several HOF's on the roster putting a 36-4 first quarter beat down on our Kings back in the Reggie Theus days. This beat that by 2. This Knicks team is nowhere near the vicinity of that Lakers team and this Kings squad has oodles more talent that any of the 80's Sacramento Kings teams.

[Glenn]

There is no question that this team does not care at all which is exactly the same attitude of their owners. The problem has been identified so how is it solved. I'd love to hear an answer that could change the course of this year.

[jpsls]

There is no question that this team does not care at all which is exactly the same attitude of their owners. The problem has been identified so how is it solved. I'd love to hear an answer that could change the course of this year.

This year is done with until new ownership is in place. They are tired of playing for a lame duck coach who has no idea what he is doing. It's not Smart's fault that he was put in this position by cheap owners. He's clearly not qualified, but i cant't blame him for taking the job.

[LWP777]

This year is done with until new ownership is in place. They are tired of playing for a lame duck coach who has no idea what he is doing. It's not Smart's fault that he was put in this position by cheap owners. He's clearly not qualified, but i cant't blame him for taking the job.

This

[pshn80]

I admit I didn't watch bu half the game. The first half. Pretty close to unbelievable. Siince I always recod, I then went off to dinner, came back and saw a little of the high desert in Peru and Bolivia, then "As Time Goes By" and dared to look the score up on NBA.com, 55 to 104 with 6 or 8 minutes to play. At that point I chose "Doc Martin" on PBS. The rest is history.

This terrible game renews fervent desire to keep the Kings right here in Sacramento. I've spent many years watching mediocre ball or worse just to be finally rewarded with the team playing some good ball, maybe just for a few games and once or twice for whole seasons. Let's stay right here and be ready some good basketball. It will happen again- sometime.

Our play now is so uninspired that it surpasses the effect of a bad coach. Players on a team like this might chose to "off" themselves. GUYS, DON't let that happen. Just go out there and pretend its playground ball and have some fun. Go Kings!

[CruzDude]

Have the Kings just given up listening to the Coach? Have the Kings just given up? Is it entirely the coaches fault? Which came first the chicken or the egg? The players or the coach? Probably mostly coaches fault based on his continuing to use the same rotations in the 2nd quarter that don't work and his rotations in general. Tyreke ever the diplomat but most others quite silent for the most part. Back in 96-97 when Mitch Richmond gave up and we had a horrible season he was the root of the main problem but what else was he to do? Bail out but that ended up getting us CWeeb. Mitch only had a couple years left in his knees anyway so ended up well for Kings.

But now? Paralysis has set in at all levels. Some to be expected in view of team sale but does it have to be this bad?

[Glenn]

Have the Kings just given up listening to the Coach? Have the Kings just given up? Is it entirely the coaches fault? Which came first the chicken or the egg? The players or the coach? Probably mostly coaches fault based on his continuing to use the same rotations in the 2nd quarter that don't work and his rotations in general. Tyreke ever the diplomat but most others quite silent for the most part. Back in 96-97 when Mitch Richmond gave up and we had a horrible season he was the root of the main problem but what else was he to do? Bail out but that ended up getting us CWeeb. Mitch only had a couple years left in his knees anyway so ended up well for Kings.

But now? Paralysis has set in at all levels. Some to be expected in view of team sale but does it have to be this bad?

I think the answer is yes especially with a young team. I could go back and do some calculations but if I remember right there are 8 crucial players younger than JT. I think that gives hope for the future but for the present, bleah! To blame it on something else is to say our team isn't any good. Of course that's possible but I'm not willing to accept that. Look at out focus on the team sale. I'm sure the players are focused no less on the sale than we are. After all, they are the ones that may have to move, etc.

[ESP47]

This loss was so bad that it calls for the first ever naked girls grades.

[HereWeVivek]

lol this team is so crappy, even the worthless Chuck Hayes wants out of here

Chuck Hayes: "No CBA team contacted me during the lockout last year, but if some Chinese team needs me in the future, I will think about it seriously." Sohu.com

[LWP777]

lol this team is so crappy, even the worthless Chuck Hayes wants out of here

Chuck Hayes: "No CBA team contacted me during the lockout last year, but if some Chinese team needs me in the future, I will think about it seriously." Sohu.com

I like Chuck Hayes but he really shouldn't be talking. He should consider himself to be extremely blessed to have a multi million dollar NBA contract because, frankly, he should be playing in the Chinese league.

[UK_King]

Chuck Hayes can be an excellent role player, he can lock people down in the low post, he isn't worthless. But if you put him next to another undersized player for big minutes it's not going to look pretty on the boards.

He's obviously not someone you'd want to start for you, but worthless?

[bajaden]

I think the answer is yes especially with a young team. I could go back and do some calculations but if I remember right there are 8 crucial players younger than JT. I think that gives hope for the future but for the present, bleah! To blame it on something else is to say our team isn't any good. Of course that's possible but I'm not willing to accept that. Look at out focus on the team sale. I'm sure the players are focused no less on the sale than we are. After all, they are the ones that may have to move, etc.

I'm not sure we can use youth as a reason for failure any longer. Certainly it comes into play, but of itself alone, its just not an excuse.

Thunder roster with current age:

J. Lamb: 20 years old
P. Jones: 21 years old
D. Orton: 22 years old
R. Jackson: 22 years old
S. Ibaka: 23 years old
K. Durant: 24 years old
R. Westbrook: 24 years old
D. Liggins: 24 years old
E. Maynor: 25 years old
H. Thabeet: 25 years old
T. Sefolosha: 28 years old
K. Perkins: 28 years old
K. Martin: 30 years old
N. Collison: 32 years old

Average age for the team: 24.8 Years old.

Kings roster with current age:

T. Robinson: 21 years old
D. Cousins: 22 years old
T. Honeycutt: 22 years old
T. Evans: 23 years old
J. Fredette: 23 years old
I. Thomas: 23 years old
M. Thornton: 25 years old
J. Johnson: 25 years old
J. Thompson: 26 years old
A. Brooks: 28 years old
T. Outlaw: 28 years old
C. Hayes: 29 years old
F. Gracia: 31 years old
J. Salmons: 33 years old

Average age of team: 25.6 years old

As you can see, the Thunder are considerably younger than the Kings, but they're also considerably better. By the way, the current age of the Warriors is 25.2 years of age. So they're younger as well, and better. So what is it? Youth, Talent, or lack there of, or coaching? Or a combination of all three? The truth is, there are teams younger than the Kings, and they're also better, some considerably better, than the Kings. So I don't think youth has anything to do with it at this point. So either we lack talent, or we have a coach that doesn't know how to use the talent we have. There is a third choice by the way. And its that we have talent, but a lot of it doesn't compliment one another, and no coach would be able to have success with this group.

I do think there's some truth to the last scenario, but I also think that a good coach would get more wins out of this group. How many is anyone's guess. Purely subjective! As to the question you were responding to, the answer is, yes, I think some of the players are still trying to do what Smart asks. Cousins implied as much with his post game comments. But I think for the rest of the players, they're looking beyond the end of this season, and see the remaining games as an audition for the rest of the league. As I said in another post, expect to see a lot of one on one basketball. Think about it for a moment. Your I. Thomas, and you have no guaranteed contract for next season. Don't you think there's going to be a huge impulse to show off what you've got? Even at the expense of the team? He knows that Cousins and Evans will get their big payday, but he's guaranteed nothing beyond this season.