But this is also why JT probably has good trade value. Reliable, decent to good big men will always draw interest and the team needs sweeping roster changes.Originally Posted by Gary
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But this is also why JT probably has good trade value. Reliable, decent to good big men will always draw interest and the team needs sweeping roster changes.
Sure, take the only consistent player on the team, the only one who's actually comfortable in his role, and trade him. That makes perfect sense. [/sarcasm]
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Agree with all of the above.
One thing regarding Fredette's free throws. People who only knew him from the youtube clips of 30 foot bombs didn't see that most of his college scoring came off penetration and fakes inside, leading either to an open shot at the rim or free throws. Last year, his production sucked because his penetration game didn't translate (no floater), and the refs were giving him the rookie treatment and not calling fouls unless somebody clotheslined him. This year, he is getting to the stripe much more often and the efficiency is going up along with it. He is aiming right at that Jason Terry type point per minute role right now.
He may just play his way to tradeable asset status.
Got three guys that we really cannot trade if we are trying to build up, not tear down. Cousins, Evans, and JT. Those are the three that either have been, or should in the future, work. The relatively dependable guys. Anything else, in any combination? Sure. It can all be upgraded. But JT's very steadiness is why he's the guy we need to keep. Especially as the steadiness comes attached to a good guy. Use anything and everything else to get me 2-3 more dependable vets who fit smoothly and work, and we'll start to have something (not a suggestion evrything else needs to be cleared, just that everything else can be cleared for the right people).
P.S. Alternately we could just never have gotten rid of Beno and Dalembert in the first place and then only needed to add a single extra steadying vet, like say a Kirilenko....but silly concepts and all that.
Last edited by Bricklayer; 12-19-2012 at 10:55 PM.
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I would like to see Jimmer ahead of Isaiah Thomas on the rotation. Jimmer has improved quite a bit, and provides the deep shooting this team desperately needs. Isaiah has unfortunately regressed into somewhat of a chucker.
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It sucks, but it's one thing you may have to do to fix the overall situation. I'd like to keep JT and fix the roster with more vets and a leader-type, but you may have to give up a JT to do that. Losing JT and fixing the problem is better than keeping JT and keeping the problematic roster.
Im starting to come around to Jimmer slowly, Brook and IT were terrific, Salmons played well and epicly fouled out Curry, the defense did a goo job on Klay Thompson which in the end proved the difference.
SantaCuz when hes in the post needs to watch videos of Zach Randolph and make quick effect moves and USE that half hook (i've mentioned it after the last game) much like Z-Bo does no one is ever going to block his half hook without goaltending since hes got a massive reach and its a quick shot he gets himself in trouble when trying to power through because thats not his game due to his lack of explosion of two feet.
Normally shots we never hit went in and winning without Tyreke makes the winner even sweeter, Marcus Thornton went back into Bomberman mode and he was going off.
Overall I'm just happy with the effort everyone made, thats the kind of effort we need EVERY GAME, hopefully we can bring effort against the Clippers since they have been trashing us the last couple years.
Uhhh...C-Webb got suspended??
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Be smart. He has the kind of value I want to keep.
I also say the game ball should go to JT. Stat line of 15 boards, 10 points, 3 assists and 3 blocked shots in 35 minutes. All while playing one on one defense against David Lee who has been tearing it up.
KB
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If there's a reason NOT to give him the game ball I think it would be because of the second half of your statemnt there, and the results
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities." --Albert Einstein
"Petrie signings are more akin to the splash you get when you accidentally drop your toothbrush in the toilet. " -- swisshh
There is no player of the game. This was a total team effort and victory. 25 assists to 9 turn-overs? Are you serious? Where has that been all season?
It has been a long time since I saw such nice ball movement resulting in many more easy shots by the Kings. Gimmee some more of that passing.
I just couldn't vote for anybody and now your post explains it. I totally enjoyed everybody's effort...each had some great moments adding up to the whole.
LOL! Hard to argue that! It did take Lee 44 and 1/2 minutes to get his 29 points though!If there's a reason NOT to give him the game ball I think it would be because of the second half of your statemnt there, and the results
KB
Onward!
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.
I'm surprised that there are not more comments about what agreat occasion this game was. It was great. Players did well, coaches did well. It was just what I want. I could go on but you get my point.
Best game of the season to watch no question.
Had that playoff atmosphere, trading buckets, big shots from both teams, Curry was fantastic, Cuz came alive late on, Brooks finally started hitting shots, IT, Jimmer and MT came in and were positive and the supporting cast all at least played with spirit.
I don't think anyone would complain if we played with that spirit every game and lost, it's the sulking and whining and crying coupled with the sauntering around the court that annoys me, and I'm sure others.
this phenomenon is becoming baffling to me.
Since moving into the starting lineup 17games ago, Brooks is shooting .496 from the field, and .414 from 3pt land.
Meanhile Jimmer is shooting .419 in December and .345 from 3pt land, and IT is shooting .450 in December, and .310 from 3pt land, And yet time and again to hear people tell it Brooks is the one struggling and needing to be replaced by these other guys for shooting purposes.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities." --Albert Einstein
"Petrie signings are more akin to the splash you get when you accidentally drop your toothbrush in the toilet. " -- swisshh
Brooks is the one with the most experience at point guard. Yet Brooks is the one doing the most stupid things at the position, like jumping up in the air before passing the ball to the opposition, or driving into traffic with nowhere to go. At least Jimmer and IT have the "inexperience excuse". What's his?
I wasn't really speaking in terms of 17 games ago (and yes i know you mean cumulatively before you jump on that) Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure you will, but i don't remember him shooting well against Denver and i don't remember him shooting well against Phoenix either. If someone goes 1-10 in one game and then 5-8 the next I'll probably say "he started hitting shots." Just a turn of phrase.
And i didn't mention him getting replaced by anyone for any purpose.
Now that's just an excuse, since they all routinely do stupid things.
For what its worth, Brooks starting numbers are 2.8ast to 1.8TO in 26min a game.
IT's numbers were 1.9ast to 2.0TO in 22min a game as a starter. Overall he's at 2.0ast to 1.7TO in 19min.
Jimmer is at 1.1ast to 0.9TO in 12+min a game. Comes out to about 2.2ast to 1.8TO in 25 min/gm.
Yet Brooks is apparently doing something especially terrible compared to these other guys?
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities." --Albert Einstein
"Petrie signings are more akin to the splash you get when you accidentally drop your toothbrush in the toilet. " -- swisshh
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