View Full Version : Whos better?
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 03:14 PM
This is a game that I like to play. Here are the rules:
I will say Lebron or Michael Jordan, then the next person will say who he thinks is better and then he will make his own face off and then so and so. For example: larry Bird or Cryde Drexler next person says who he thinks is better. I think Larry is better. Then I make my own face off and then so on so on.
If you have any questions about the game ask me.
Here is the game!!!
Sthepon Marbary or Jason Kidd?
bdouble013
09-06-2004, 03:17 PM
Jason Kidd. Marbury shoots better, but Kidd has eyes in the back of his head.
Greg Ostertag or Raef LaFrenz?
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 03:20 PM
Ostertag
Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan?
Gargamel
09-06-2004, 03:27 PM
From 1997-2002: Duncan. Since 2002: Garnett.
Garnett is more athletic and versatile and a harder cover. Malone and Shaq really took Duncan's game into the mud in the final 4 games of last year's SA/LA series. They didn't have nearly the same effect on Garnett's game because he's not as stiff as Duncan and can mix up his offense. He can take the ball inside and outside and his reach makes it more difficult for good defenders to alter his jumphooks in the paint.
Bird or Erving and why?
Ostertag
Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan?
Tim Duncan
Tim Duncan or Kobe Bryant
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 03:31 PM
Duncan
Wilt Chambrelin or Kareem Abdul- Jabbar
The Freak
09-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Wilt.
Wilt or MJ?
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 03:44 PM
MJ
Kobe or T-mac?
bdouble013
09-06-2004, 03:52 PM
Kobe, no question. T-Mac is very good, but Kobe is a complete player. Offense, Defense, passing etc.
And just for Gargamel..
Bird or Erving and why?
stealth edit ;)
Mad D
09-06-2004, 03:56 PM
Kobe, no question. T-Mac is very good, but Kobe is a complete player. Offense, Defense, passing etc.
And just for Gargamel..
Bird or Ewing and why?i thought he said Erving.
Gargamel
09-06-2004, 03:59 PM
Good lookin, bdubb. How dare Sixy try to steal my thunder. ;)
Bird or Dr. J and why?
Good lookin, bdubb. How dare Sixy try to steal my thunder. ;)
Bird or Dr. J and why?
Sorry, Gargy! :o :p
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 04:59 PM
Bird because he has won championships.
Steve Francis or Steve Nash?
Bballkingsrock
09-06-2004, 05:05 PM
Anybody going to answer?
linzeesan
09-06-2004, 05:37 PM
steve nash
doone
09-06-2004, 06:00 PM
You gotta make up your own face-off thingy linzeesan. =P
doone
09-06-2004, 06:46 PM
Since linzeesan won't do it, I will!
The subject of much offseason speculation: Peja or Artest?
JayBird
09-06-2004, 07:21 PM
Since linzeesan won't do it, I will!
The subject of much offseason speculation: Peja or Artest?
Artest.
Bibby or Bobby?
linzeesan
09-06-2004, 07:25 PM
Artest.
Bibby or Bobby?
bibby.
Irvin Johnson or Shawn Bradley?
(sorry doone, i wasn't paying attention :)
Since93
09-06-2004, 09:03 PM
bibby.
Irvin Johnson or Shawn Bradley?
(sorry doone, i wasn't paying attention :)
Irvin Johnson.
Kandi Man or Kwame Brown?
Lamar_Odom
09-06-2004, 10:06 PM
Larry Bird. He's white (:p), more championships, more MVPs, better shooter, better overall player.
Peja or Paul Pierce?
Bibby_Is_Clutch
09-06-2004, 10:16 PM
Peja... enough said...
Me or MJ?
Since93
09-06-2004, 10:19 PM
Why skipping my question? :confused:
Bibby_Is_Clutch
09-06-2004, 10:27 PM
who knows... ill answer it for him
Kandi man
now what about mine?
bdouble013
09-06-2004, 10:33 PM
Umm.......................MJ?
Chris Webber or Elton Brand
(please let this answer be a level headed, open minded answer)
Evilmav2
09-06-2004, 10:37 PM
Umm.......................MJ?
Chris Webber or Elton Brand
(please let this answer be a level headed, open minded answer)As an impartial observer, I say Elton Brand (He is more durable, and less of a locker-room lawyer)
Vitaly Potapenko or Vladimir Stepania?
[FLaT]
09-06-2004, 11:28 PM
Potapenko for sure- just the better player.
Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett?
Gargamel
09-07-2004, 12:17 AM
']Potapenko for sure- just the better player.
Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett?
Two people already answered this one on Pg. 1.
Wes Bialoskunia or Ed Biedenbach? Definitive answer this time. None of that, "styles too different to compare" crap.
Kingsgurl
09-07-2004, 01:24 AM
Biedenbach, because I never heard of the other guy.
Christie or Bowen?
LjuboDaMan
09-07-2004, 01:32 AM
my man christie ... better all around playa
MJ vs KOBE ?
Kingsgurl
09-07-2004, 01:34 AM
MJ
Randolph or Stoudemire?
Superman
09-07-2004, 01:47 AM
Randolph.
John Stockton or Isiah Thomas?
KingKong
09-07-2004, 02:38 AM
Stockton,
Isiah may have won championships but Stockton was the most consummate and pure PG ever to play and made everyone that much better. (You could make a case for Magic)
Barkely or Malone?
Insomniacal Fan
09-07-2004, 03:01 AM
Barkley, sure, he was (and is) a headcase. But at 6-4, he was able to take on any power forward in the league. That speaks a lot about his skill, and his basketball smarts.
Bob Cousy or Steve Nash
slugking50
09-07-2004, 07:11 AM
Barkley, sure, he was (and is) a headcase. But at 6-4, he was able to take on any power forward in the league. That speaks a lot about his skill, and his basketball smarts.
Bob Cousy or Steve Nash
Cousy by a landslide!
Big O vs Big Country:p
Kingsgurl
09-07-2004, 09:39 AM
The Big O, no contest;)
Karl Malone or Moses Malone?
Gargamel
09-07-2004, 09:39 AM
Stockton,
Isiah may have won championships but Stockton was the most consummate and pure PG ever to play and made everyone that much better. (You could make a case for Magic)
Barkley or Malone?
I'm not buying that you'd have to make a case for Magic. He was a pure point guard who could also rip 20 points and 6 boards. I never could understand how that's held against him when discussing "pureness".
I'll take Barkley in terms of talent and Malone in terms of legacy.
Gargamel
09-07-2004, 09:43 AM
The Big O, no contest;)
Karl Malone or Moses Malone?
Moses. He made the disappointing Sixers and the disappointing Rockets into championship caliber teams and is one of the few players who can hold a candle to Karl's longevity.
Chris Mullin or Alex English?
Evilmav2
09-07-2004, 11:49 AM
Moses. He made the disappointing Sixers and the disappointing Rockets into championship caliber teams and is one of the few players who can hold a candle to Karl's longevity.
Chris Mullin or Alex English?
Which one was on the first and only "Dream Team"? Chris Mullin, baby...
Dikembe Mutumbo or "The Man Mountain" Mark Eaton?
bdouble013
09-07-2004, 11:53 AM
Mutumbo, just because he has that cool voice.
Lebron or Melo?
Evilmav2
09-07-2004, 11:57 AM
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Widowmaker2k
09-07-2004, 12:01 PM
Mutumbo, just because he has that cool voice.
Lebron or Melo?
Lebron.
Magic Johnson or Kevin Garnett?
Evilmav2
09-07-2004, 12:06 PM
Lebron.
Magic Johnson or Kevin Garnett?
Magic Johnson. Old #32 was a career-long winner, and young #21 is career-long loser...
Nazr Mohammed or Othella Harrington?
Superman
09-07-2004, 01:20 PM
I'm not buying that you'd have to make a case for Magic. He was a pure point guard who could also rip 20 points and 6 boards. I never could understand how that's held against him when discussing "pureness".
I don't hold that against Magic. I hold his suspect shooting against him, though. In that sense, Stockton was a much purer point guard.
However, I don't even try to put Magic in a category; he was a ball player. I treat players like Kevin Garnett and Scottie Pippen and even Charles Barkley the same way. I'm not going to knock them because they're not the prototypical player; their diversity is what makes them great.
In Magic's case, his ability to play anywhere on the court made him one of the greatest players ever. And if I had to choose between Magic and Stockton as players, I'd take Magic hands down. But as far as pure point guards are concerned, I'd take Stockton.
Gargamel
09-07-2004, 03:46 PM
I don't hold that against Magic. I hold his suspect shooting against him, though. In that sense, Stockton was a much purer point guard.
:confused: Magic was a deadeye from the perimeter, didn't shoot a lot of treys, but he never really had to until he started to age. No team was ever dumb enough to dare him to shoot.
I'll grant that Stockton probably took a lot more perimeter shots than Magic over their careers, and that perimeter shooting is part and parcel with being a PG. Magic could post up just about every PG in the league so shooting jumpers was usually his last option.
Fair enough on the rest of your post.
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 04:47 PM
Nazr Muhammed
Jason Williams or Jason Terry?
Widowmaker2k
09-07-2004, 06:03 PM
Jason Williams.
Grant Hill or Alonzo Mourning?
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 06:04 PM
Grant Hill
Sthepen Jackson or Al HArrington?
bibbyweb
09-07-2004, 06:06 PM
From 1997-2002: Duncan. Since 2002: Garnett.
Garnett is more athletic and versatile and a harder cover. Malone and Shaq really took Duncan's game into the mud in the final 4 games of last year's SA/LA series. They didn't have nearly the same effect on Garnett's game because he's not as stiff as Duncan and can mix up his offense. He can take the ball inside and outside and his reach makes it more difficult for good defenders to alter his jumphooks in the paint.
Bird or Erving and why?This year Garnett had better results. But overall Duncan is better.
Another thing to note abt the lakers & TWolves series was that Malone didnt play most of it or hardly put in any minutes.
Bibby or Kidd?
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 06:09 PM
Kid
Elton Brand or Chris Webber?
Widowmaker2k
09-07-2004, 06:10 PM
Kid
Elton Brand or Chris Webber?
Chris Webber. Here's hoping that next year he can make a full recovery and show us how good he really is. (And continues to show us, all the way through the playoffs.)
Jason Kidd or Nate Archibald?
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 06:11 PM
Nate
Cryde Drexler or T-Mac?
JayBird
09-07-2004, 06:40 PM
T-Mac
Rudy T or Rick Adelman?
Gargamel
09-07-2004, 06:44 PM
T-Mac
Rudy T or Rick Adelman?
Tomjanovich, easy.
Adelman or Riley?
Riley
Ryne Sandberg or Jeff Kent?
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 06:49 PM
this is about basketball players. But if you ask Jeff
Brad Miler or Dikembe?
this is about basketball players. But if you ask Jeff
Brad Miler or Dikembe?
The instructions didn't say it was only basketball players, and since this is in the "other sports" forum, baseball is appropriate.
And do you even know who Ryne Sandberg is? If so, how can you possibly say Jeff Kent is better?
The instructions didn't say it was only basketball players, and since this is in the "other sports" forum, baseball is appropriate.
No, as a matter of fact, it's the NBA forum... So basketball is appropriate.
Brad Miller
Jason Williams or Chucky Atkins
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 07:13 PM
Jason
Pistol Pete or Rick Barry?
C Diddy
09-07-2004, 08:16 PM
Pistol Pete.
Pistol Pete or Logo?
Bballkingsrock
09-07-2004, 09:01 PM
Pete
Paul Pierce or Shawn Marion?
LjuboDaMan
09-08-2004, 01:42 AM
pierceeeeee ... better 1 on 1 ... gets to the free throw line easy
Peja VS Kukoc ?
Superman
09-08-2004, 01:53 AM
:confused: Magic was a deadeye from the perimeter, didn't shoot a lot of treys, but he never really had to until he started to age. No team was ever dumb enough to dare him to shoot.
30% over his career from downtown. Never broke 24% before '88. I agree that he never shot a lot of threes, but 6 for 29, 10 for 43 and 11 for 56 is pretty bad.
Compare that with Stockton, who was a career 38% three point shooter, and punished teams from distance. He shot 46% from outside when he was 38 years old. No team dared him to shoot, but he got his shot off and was truly what I'd call "a deadeye from the perimeter".
Magic was definitely a mismatch, no matter who was guarding him. There were few with the size and quickness to match up against him. But that's why he gets classified as a "player," instead of trying to restrict him to the point guard position. He did way too much to just call him a point guard, if you ask me.
KingKong
09-08-2004, 04:52 AM
Peja
Kukoc helped the Bulls win 3 championships, but Peja is more of a prolific and consistent scorer even compared to Kukoc during his Bulls run, and Peja still has a tremendous upside to his game.
Jason Richardson or Desmond Mason?
slugking50
09-08-2004, 06:09 AM
Peja
Kukoc helped the Bulls win 3 championships, but Peja is more of a prolific and consistent scorer even compared to Kukoc during his Bulls run, and Peja still has a tremendous upside to his game.
Jason Richardson or Desmond Mason?
Desmond Mason.
Duane Causwell vs Olden Polynice
:p
bdouble013
09-08-2004, 08:44 AM
Causinator...duh!
Bol or Bradley?
linzeesan
09-08-2004, 10:38 AM
bradley
jason williams or raefer alston?
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 12:44 PM
30% over his career from downtown. Never broke 24% before '88. I agree that he never shot a lot of threes, but 6 for 29, 10 for 43 and 11 for 56 is pretty bad.
Compare that with Stockton, who was a career 38% three point shooter, and punished teams from distance. He shot 46% from outside when he was 38 years old. No team dared him to shoot, but he got his shot off and was truly what I'd call "a deadeye from the perimeter".
It's hard to get a good percentage from the arc when you only shoot 29, 43, and 56 a year. Bird shot .286 or less from the arc in 4 of his first 5 seasons. Stockton shot .242 or less in 4 of his first 5 seasons. Many players who broke into the league when the arc was in its infancy had similar choppy shooting percentages from three. They had to acclimate to the distance over time and some players who played during the 80s never really accepted it as a good shot since they were brought up trying to get the best shot possible. I think Magic was one of those players. He didn't start chucking up a lot of threes until his final 3 years so it's hard to compare he and Stockton in that regard.
On the other hand, Magic was .520 from the field - career. They weren't all hook shots and layups. He wasn't suspect from the field for the great majority of his career. Perhaps his range never got out as far as Stock's did. That, I'd have to concede.
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 12:50 PM
Pete
Pistol Pete better than West?
:eek:
C Diddy
09-08-2004, 01:31 PM
Pistol Pete better than West?
:eek:
I was thinking the same thing. :(
jason williams or raefer alston?
Jason Williams
Jason Williams or Gary Payton (2004 Version)? :D
*Serbprincess*
09-08-2004, 03:47 PM
i dont like payton, so im being biased. Jason Williams...
Pete Maravich or Drazen Petrovic?
Superman
09-08-2004, 04:21 PM
It's hard to get a good percentage from the arc when you only shoot 29, 43, and 56 a year. Bird shot .286 or less from the arc in 4 of his first 5 seasons. Stockton shot .242 or less in 4 of his first 5 seasons. Many players who broke into the league when the arc was in its infancy had similar choppy shooting percentages from three. They had to acclimate to the distance over time and some players who played during the 80s never really accepted it as a good shot since they were brought up trying to get the best shot possible. I think Magic was one of those players. He didn't start chucking up a lot of threes until his final 3 years so it's hard to compare he and Stockton in that regard.
On the other hand, Magic was .520 from the field - career. They weren't all hook shots and layups. He wasn't suspect from the field for the great majority of his career. Perhaps his range never got out as far as Stock's did. That, I'd have to concede.
Good points.
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 04:46 PM
Peta
Ray Allen or Paul Pierce?
Superman
09-08-2004, 05:23 PM
Paul Pierce.
FSM (F****** Stephon Marbury) or Jason Kidd?
Jason Kidd....I have never been a huge fan of Stephon...Kidd doesn't have the pure shooting stroke, but can hit it sometimes, and he does well in most all other facets of the game...
Micheal Redd or Ray Allen?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 05:30 PM
Ray Allen
Doug Christie or Joe Johnson?
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 05:33 PM
Ray Allen
Doug Christie or Joe Johnson?Can't say yet. If Johnson keeps progressing steadily, he'll be better by the time he's Christie's age. Took Doug 5 years to develop into a solid player.
Mark Price or Kevin Johnson?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 05:36 PM
Kevin
Hakeem or Kareem?
KiNgMyC
09-08-2004, 05:42 PM
Kareem
Ewing or Robinson?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 05:44 PM
Ewing
James Worthy or Julius Erving?
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 05:44 PM
Kevin
Hakeem or Kareem?
Like I'm about to say Hakeem... :) You're trying to show what a homer I am, aren't you?
Kareem of course. But I think this one is pretty obvious to even Rockets fans. Kareem dropped 46 pts on Akeem at age 38.
Dale Ellis or Rick Pierce?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 05:46 PM
Answer my question!
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 05:48 PM
Answer my question!Dr. J. C'mon, now... Isn't it obvious?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 05:51 PM
Dale
John Stockton (prime age) or Jason Kidd?
Gargamel
09-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Dale
John Stockton (prime age) or Jason Kidd?
Stockton. Superman would have a field day comparing their shooting. ;)
Bogues or Boykins?
Bballkingsrock
09-08-2004, 10:46 PM
Bogues
Brad Miller or Yao Ming?
BJax24
09-08-2004, 11:51 PM
brad miller.
sam bowie or pervis ellison:rolleyes:
Superman
09-09-2004, 01:01 AM
Stockton. Superman would have a field day comparing their shooting. ;)
Bogues or Boykins?
I loved John Stockton...
I'd take Pervis Ellison over Sam Bowie, just because of the fact that he went #2 ahead of Mike.
Scottie Pippen or Tracy McGrady? Why?
Evilmav2
09-09-2004, 05:02 AM
I loved John Stockton...
I'd take Pervis Ellison over Sam Bowie, just because of the fact that he went #2 ahead of Mike.
Scottie Pippen or Tracy McGrady? Why?
Tracy McGrady. The man came into the league billed as a "new Scottie Pippen"; and he proved that billing correct, as his long arms, basketball intelligence, and quick feet helped him dominate as a defensive, passing second banana playing with Vince Carter and the Raptors.
Of course, once Tracy left as a free-agent to Orlando, and became a 30 ppg scorer, he stopped exhibiting those defensive strengths, but that doesn't mean he doesn't possess them... Along with a proven ability to lead the league in scoring- something Scottie could never have done...
Wang ZhiZhi or Menk Bateer?
mcsluggo
09-09-2004, 06:53 AM
Menk.
Sean Chen or Liu Wei
Gargamel
09-09-2004, 07:11 AM
Tracy McGrady. The man came into the league billed as a "new Scottie Pippen"; and he proved that billing correct, as his long arms, basketball intelligence, and quick feet helped him dominate as a defensive, passing second banana playing with Vince Carter and the Raptors.
Of course, once Tracy left as a free-agent to Orlando, and became a 30 ppg scorer, he stopped exhibiting those defensive strengths, but that doesn't mean he doesn't possess them... Along with a proven ability to lead the league in scoring- something Scottie could never have done...
I don't think McGrady is anywhere near as good as Pippen was at passing and playing defense.
Superman
09-09-2004, 12:59 PM
I don't think McGrady is anywhere near as good as Pippen was at passing and playing defense.
Or rebounding.
And judging from Pippen's percentages in his prime (higher almost across the board than McGrady's), I think he had the ability to lead the League in scoring. I don't think he ever really care to, though.
He was also more durable than McGrady has been thus far.
Gargamel
09-09-2004, 01:02 PM
Or rebounding.
And judging from Pippen's percentages in his prime (higher almost across the board than McGrady's), I think he had the ability to lead the League in scoring. I don't think he ever really care to, though.
He was also more durable than McGrady has been thus far.
They're both sniveling punks tho.
CWebb_04
09-09-2004, 02:20 PM
Tmac by a landslide thus far. He is more athletic and versatile than s. pippen. Pippen also had MJ to tag team with, which probably made his bball life alot easier. Tmac has a far way to prove himself to be a winner, but as far as skills goes, he is top notch and probably only behind kobe at this moment.
Heres a toughy...
Bird or Magic !?
Superman
09-09-2004, 02:26 PM
More versatile? No, no, no.
And Pippen shined in the two years that MJ was retired, leading his team in every statistical category as they won 55 games the first year and 47 the second. Pippen was also able to help his team get out of the first round, without Jordan.
He's more athletic, and probably more skilled than Pippen, true. That does not make him a better basketball player, though.
Gargamel
09-09-2004, 02:59 PM
Tmac by a landslide thus far. He is more athletic and versatile than s. pippen. Pippen also had MJ to tag team with, which probably made his bball life alot easier. Tmac has a far way to prove himself to be a winner, but as far as skills goes, he is top notch and probably only behind kobe at this moment.
Heres a toughy...
Bird or Magic !?
I have to agree with Superman on this one. Pippen was a way better defender, he was one of a few (and the only non-guard) who facilitated the triangle offense well, and he's got too many years of 6 rpg and 6 apg for TMac to stack up with him at this point. He not only carried the 94/95 Bulls, but he was probably the major reason that the 2000 Blazers nearly made it to the Finals. And I don't quite agree that he's any less athletic than McGrady. Pip could flush on anyone and he covered a ton of space on the court. I think his glaring weaknesses were his lack of a pull up jumper (which killed the opportunity to hit game-winners) and his fragile psyche when things weren't going well for him.
I think the Magic/Bird answer depends on who you saw more. In reality, they were peas in a pod.
Bballkingsrock
09-09-2004, 04:44 PM
Magic
Bobby Jackon or Jason Terry?
Mad D
09-09-2004, 04:47 PM
bobby jackson
personality:
tim duncan or chris webber
Bballkingsrock
09-09-2004, 04:50 PM
Duncan
Amare Stoadamire or Brad Miller?
C Diddy
09-09-2004, 05:38 PM
Brad Miller
Iverson or Vince Carter?
LjuboDaMan
09-09-2004, 07:04 PM
iverson
for a guy dat size, hes great, he can play
... more hustle, less whining ...
Shaq ||| Hakeem ???
AriesMar27
09-09-2004, 08:31 PM
Hakeem....
Maria Sharapova or Anna K. (looks not tennis skill)
Gargamel
09-09-2004, 10:15 PM
Hakeem....
Maria Sharapova or Anna K. (looks not tennis skill)Uh oh, male chauvinist territory. You have to go with Anna, of course, but Maria's got both looks and talent over Anna. Maria's voice even sounds like Martina's. She's got a talented voice.
Ravishing Rick Rude or Rowdy Roddy Piper?
annoyablepnoy
09-09-2004, 10:23 PM
rowdy roddy piper
sponge bob or patrick
Gargamel
09-09-2004, 10:34 PM
rowdy roddy piper
sponge bob or patrick
Patrick gets the best lines.
Bob Lanier or Patrick Ewing?
Bballkingsrock
09-09-2004, 11:07 PM
Bob
This a NBA Board, just write down NBA face-offs
Paul Pierce or Vince Carter?
KingKong
09-10-2004, 12:15 AM
Pierce,
The guy can flat out score, whether it's from getting to the line or burying a three in your face. Has great penetration and is one of the best clutch shooters in the game. He's also an underrated passer and defender imo. The only weakness that I see in his game is that he lacks the qualities of a leader and is not very vocal in the locker room. Vince Carter can score too, usually with his flashy dunks and that's about it, he's an erratic shooter and doesn't play defense and is injury prone.
Ben Wallace or Dennis Rodman?
LjuboDaMan
09-10-2004, 01:56 AM
Ben ... (shotblocking is main diff)
Christie VS Rose ?
LjuboDaMan
09-10-2004, 01:57 AM
i meant Jalen Rose
Mad D
09-10-2004, 02:22 AM
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/doug_christie/head2head.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jalen_rose/head2head.html
I'd take doug since he adds more with his D. Jalen is a leauge leader in turnovers per game.
Chris Bosh a few years from now or KG
Evilmav2
09-10-2004, 05:20 AM
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/doug_christie/head2head.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jalen_rose/head2head.html
I'd take doug since he adds more with his D. Jalen is a leauge leader in turnovers per game.
Chris Bosh a few years from now or KG
KG as the better talent. Perhaps, Chris Bosh will end up being the better winner...
Richard Jefferson or Jason Richardson?
4cwebb
09-10-2004, 06:45 AM
That's not much of a choice at this point b/w RJeff and JRich. If I had to pick I'd take JRich. At least I know what he is going to give me on a crappy team. RJeff has been pumped up by the presence of JKidd since he came into the league, and I'd fear the Marion-esque drop off if he weren't teamed with JKidd, so measuring the two on their own merits, I'd take JRich.
Dirk or KG (this one is for you, Evilmav2).
Bballkingsrock
09-10-2004, 03:23 PM
KG
Magic Johnson or Larry Bird?
Gargamel
09-10-2004, 03:54 PM
KG
Magic Johnson or Larry Bird?Already answered.
Petrovic or Reggie Lewis?
Bballkingsrock
09-10-2004, 07:02 PM
Petrovic
( which one better shooter )
Ray Allen or Michael Redd?
C Diddy
09-10-2004, 07:05 PM
Allen.
Better Defender: Pippen or Jordan?
LjuboDaMan
09-10-2004, 07:41 PM
i have no idea ... pippen :confused:
better shooter ... Peja VS R. Miller ?
Heuge
09-10-2004, 09:14 PM
Miller...he done it when it matters.
better coach... Don Nelson VR Rick Adelman
GoSACtown
09-10-2004, 09:55 PM
Miller...he done it when it matters.
better coach... Don Nelson VR Rick Adelman
rick, but i think both have been losers
Steve Kerr or Robert Horry
LjuboDaMan
09-10-2004, 10:42 PM
Kerr
R. Wallace or K. Martin ?
Grobar
09-10-2004, 11:28 PM
wallace... all martin can do is dunk and jump really high.
big Z or camby
KingKong
09-10-2004, 11:56 PM
Big Z,
They are both injury prone. Camby is a better shot blocker and rebounder and Big Z is the better all round skilled player so edge goes to him.
Mike Bibby or Tony Parker?
coolhandluke
09-10-2004, 11:59 PM
Mike Bibby, of course. Better playmaker and clutch performer.
Kobe Bryant or Tracy McGrady?
Since93
09-11-2004, 01:56 AM
Kobe Bryant.
They may at the same talent level. But I think T-Mac hasn't proven anything yet.
Peja or AK47?
coolhandluke
09-11-2004, 02:34 AM
Tough question. I would say AK47, right now. All-round talent, plays both ends of the court well, nice hustle and drive. Peja may have a higher "upside" but until he learns how to post up a midget, he isn't getting my nod over AK47.
Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnson?
Bballkingsrock
09-11-2004, 10:52 AM
Magic
Clyde Drexler or James Worthy?
Ryan@CU
09-11-2004, 01:25 PM
I love you clyde, but no one stops Big Game James.
Spud Webb or Mugsy Boges? (sorry about the spelling)
Heuge
09-11-2004, 01:37 PM
Spud...slam dunk Champ.
Charlotte Bobcats or Duke Blue Devils?
Bballkingsrock
09-11-2004, 01:43 PM
Duke
This is a NBA column so talk about NBA players
Jason Kidd or Allen Iverson?
Heuge
09-11-2004, 02:15 PM
This is a NBA column so talk about NBA players
Charlotte is the expansion team. I was talking about the nba. I think Charlotte looks terrible.
Heuge
09-11-2004, 02:18 PM
AI
Brand v. Gasol?
Bballkingsrock
09-11-2004, 02:34 PM
Gasol
Duke Blue Devils are not in the NBA
Steve Francis or Baron Davis?
Gargamel
09-11-2004, 02:56 PM
Gasol
Duke Blue Devils are not in the NBA
Steve Francis or Baron Davis?
Davis.
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Mad D
09-11-2004, 02:59 PM
Mary Ann.. she'll throw it down on your face!!
in international competition:
Gasol or Duncan
Heuge
09-11-2004, 03:02 PM
Duke Blue Devils are not in the NBA
Duke isn't an nba team. oh.http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Heuge
09-11-2004, 03:03 PM
Duncan
Ginobli or Peja
Since93
09-11-2004, 03:36 PM
Tough question. I would say AK47, right now. All-round talent, plays both ends of the court well, nice hustle and drive. Peja may have a higher "upside" but until he learns how to post up a midget, he isn't getting my nod over AK47.
I would pick AK47 too. :) :)
Duncan
Ginobli or Peja
Peja.
Maybe 1 or 2 years later Ginobli will be better.
*Serbprincess*
09-11-2004, 03:38 PM
Webber or Duncan?
**Sorry if someone already posted this ;) i didnt read all of them;)
Gargamel
09-11-2004, 03:42 PM
Webber or Duncan?
**Sorry if someone already posted this ;) i didnt read all of them;)
Tinman.
96 Bulls or 86 Celtics. Who'd win a 7-gm matchup?
Heuge
09-11-2004, 03:45 PM
da bulls
Jordan and Pippen Vrs Kobe and Shaq
*Serbprincess*
09-11-2004, 03:49 PM
jordan and pippen
bibby or Ishia Thomas?
The Freak
09-11-2004, 06:14 PM
U mean Isaiah?
I think Bibby is.
Bibby or J-Will?
Ryan@CU
09-11-2004, 06:42 PM
Bibby
Phill Jackson or Pat Riley
Insomniacal Fan
09-11-2004, 07:08 PM
More talented coach? Riley. More successful coach? Jackson Best personality? Pass
"Better" is kinda a weird term here
Bill Russell or Big Ben Wallace?
Gargamel
09-11-2004, 08:12 PM
More talented coach? Riley. More successful coach? Jackson Best personality? Pass
"Better" is kinda a weird term here
Bill Russell or Big Ben Wallace?
Don't know if you know, but both Riley and Jackson were players. NBA TV aired a game from the 1972 Finals vs LA and NY last night and there was a play where Riley took it right at Jackson on a 1:1 drive and got a 3 pt play. When you see that, you have to remind yourself that it's the guys we know as coaches. Anyway, Jackson was a better player. He was a cerebral "utility" forward. Riley was basically a scrapper who mopped the floor with his jersey.
Russell by a light year over Wallace.
Bballkingsrock
09-11-2004, 08:48 PM
tall your face off Gargamel
doone
09-11-2004, 10:37 PM
What in the world does tall your face off mean?!
Bballkingsrock
09-11-2004, 11:58 PM
my bad, I meant tell
Gargamel
09-12-2004, 12:38 AM
my bad, I meant tell
I thought that was a diss at first. ;)
Jeff Hornacek or Jeff Malone?
LjuboDaMan
09-12-2004, 12:44 AM
Hornacek (he could really light it uppppppp)
Sabonis ... Divac ?
Gargamel
09-12-2004, 12:55 AM
Hornacek (he could really light it uppppppp)
Sabonis ... Divac ?
Sabonis.
Peja or Drazen?
LjuboDaMan
09-12-2004, 01:32 AM
I wish Drazen was still here so I could compare them ... tuff one
I don't know ...
Peja
Bobby Jackson ... Rafer Alston ?
slugking50
09-12-2004, 03:05 AM
I wish Drazen was still here so I could compare them ... tuff one
I don't know ...
Peja
Bobby Jackson ... Rafer Alston ?
Bjax!
George Mikan vs Bill Russell
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 11:13 AM
Bill
Julius Erving or Cldye Drexler?
Ryan@CU
09-12-2004, 11:42 AM
i'll take Erving when he played for the ABA
In their prime: Sabonis or Vlade?
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 12:51 PM
Sabonis
Jason Kidd or Steve Nash?
Gargamel
09-12-2004, 02:53 PM
Kidd. But just imagine Kidd with Nash's shooting.
Carmela or Wade?
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 02:55 PM
Carmelo
Carmelo Anthony or Shawn Marion?
Heuge
09-12-2004, 03:33 PM
Carmela
Carmela or Odom?
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 05:04 PM
Carmelo
Dwayne Wade or Mike Bibby?
Ryan@CU
09-12-2004, 05:30 PM
Bibby.
1996 Bulls or the 2001 Lakers?
annoyablepnoy
09-12-2004, 07:01 PM
1996 bulls
ostertag or shawn bradley
LjuboDaMan
09-12-2004, 09:14 PM
hehehe Bradley :cool:
Iverson ... Carter ?
bdouble013
09-12-2004, 09:32 PM
Already answered and Ivy for me.
Oh and Mad D personality:
tim duncan or chris webber- You can argue that Timmy is better (and you would probably be right), but personality? Come on Webb takes that easy.
Shaq in 3 years or Yao in 3 years?
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 09:46 PM
Yao
Christie or Reggie Miller?
bdouble013
09-12-2004, 09:52 PM
As much as I would love to say Christie....R Miller.
For one season and one season only...a rookie Shaq or rookie Yao?
Bballkingsrock
09-12-2004, 11:17 PM
Shaq
Greg Ostertag or Keon Clark?
Ryan@CU
09-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Keon Clark
In College: Bill Walton or Pistol Pete?
kingsnation
09-12-2004, 11:46 PM
Walton.
In 10 years, Lebron or Carmelo?
Gargamel
09-12-2004, 11:53 PM
Yao
Christie or Reggie Miller?
Pretty good question. Although Reggie wins this one, Christie has better output in rebs and assists and in the defensive cats. I frankly think that's more important than Reggie's upper-hand in scoring. Reggie's more important than Christie historically by a wide margin though.
Duane Causwell or Olden Polynice?
Ryan@CU
09-13-2004, 12:45 AM
In 10 years, Lebron or Carmelo?
Lebron!!
Duane Causwell or Olden Polynice?
Haha, good one. Remember, you can't spell "COPS" without "OP"
Olden Polynice
Arco Areana or Boston Garden?
Gargamel
09-13-2004, 12:57 AM
Arco Areana or Boston Garden?
If you ask me, Boston Garden was the real haven of the semi-civilized.
Arco, but that's probably the Boston reject hate doing the talkin.
Better fans:
Bulls or Knicks?
Ryan@CU
09-13-2004, 10:25 AM
Knicks, I'd say they know more about the game then Bulls fans.
Best trash talker?
Payton or Sir Charles?
Gargamel
09-13-2004, 01:27 PM
Knicks, I'd say they know more about the game then Bulls fans.
Best trash talker?
Payton or Sir Charles?
Payton. Charles had fun with his stuff. Payton talked fishbones, coffee grounds, rotten meat, grass clipping, cat litter, dirty diaper trash.
Fisher or Alston?
Kingsgurl
09-13-2004, 04:21 PM
Depends, if you're talking flopping, Fisher would win hands down, in fact, poses the question
Best Flopper
Vlade or Fish?
annoyablepnoy
09-13-2004, 04:45 PM
vlade, because im not a real teller of flops
better shooter
shaq or ben wallace
Bballkingsrock
09-13-2004, 04:55 PM
Ben he could shoot from outside. Shaq can't shoot anywhere except in the paint.
Stephon Marbary or Allen Iverson?
Ryan@CU
09-13-2004, 04:57 PM
Shaq, hands down. (I know it's sad)
Best NBA Couple
Chris + Tyra or Fox + Vanessa?
LjuboDaMan
09-13-2004, 05:41 PM
Chris and Tyra
Peja ... Carter ?
Gargamel
09-13-2004, 06:01 PM
Chris and Tyra
Peja ... Carter ? Carter, but not by as much as he probably should be given his talent and athleticism.
Alvin Robertson or Fat Lever? They're very close statwise, so please tell why you pick one over the other?
LjuboDaMan
09-13-2004, 11:35 PM
does anyone even know those two :D
slugking50
09-14-2004, 07:04 AM
does anyone even know those two :D
Both names sound familiar, Fat Lever moreso but I couldnt tell you whos better.lol
Gargamel
09-14-2004, 07:21 AM
Man, those two were good players too. If they were playing today, they'd be stars.
Richardson career 15, 6, 7, 2.5 steals
Lever career 14, 6, 6, 2.2 steals
I'd have to go with Lever because Richardson was plagued by cocaine use, although he was compared favorably to Magic Johnson at his best (and those comparisons actually weren't hype). Lever was probably the most consistent triple double guy in the league other than Magic for a handful of years.
How bout Terry Cummings or Anthony Mason?
annoyablepnoy
09-14-2004, 08:28 AM
anthony mason because he looks more like a hustler
Mike bibby this year or Mike bibby of 2000
mcsluggo
09-14-2004, 09:26 AM
I'd like to think that bibby is continuing to develop. (ergo 2004 > 2000)
Mike Bibby's "D" versus Jason William's "D"
neither is a defensive stalwart, but who is less bad? Why do you think so?
Lamar_Odom
09-14-2004, 12:26 PM
How bout Terry Cummings or Anthony Mason?
Tough one. I'd have to say Anthony Mason because of his defensive toughness.
Ryan@CU
09-14-2004, 03:15 PM
Carter, but not by as much as he probably should be given his talent and athleticism.
Catrer is a injured bum! I'd take Peja over Carter in the last 3 years.
Gargamel
09-14-2004, 03:18 PM
Catrer is a injured bum! I'd take Peja over Carter in the last 3 years.
I think he's a slightly better player than Peja: 23/5/4 career vs 18/5/2. I do, however, think Carter has never fully tapped his potential.
annoyablepnoy
09-14-2004, 04:51 PM
faster runner up and down the court? speedy claxton or tony parker
Bballkingsrock
09-14-2004, 05:01 PM
tony parker (what kind of name is Speedy? "Hi my name is Speedy. No, really")
Bobby Jackson or Jason Williams?
PJAZZ19
09-14-2004, 07:27 PM
I'm not sure if Peja is really a good idea for the Kings anymore...seeing how he doesn't want to be there at all. Why hold onto someone who will just bring everyone else down?
Heuge
09-14-2004, 08:44 PM
tony parker (what kind of name is Speedy? "Hi my name is Speedy. No, really")
Bobby Jackson or Jason Williams?Jason Williams...good question.
Brad Miller v Erik Dampier
Ryan@CU
09-14-2004, 09:14 PM
I'm not sure if Peja is really a good idea for the Kings anymore...seeing how he doesn't want to be there at all. Why hold onto someone who will just bring everyone else down?
Give me an example where this has happened in the NBA
Heuge
09-14-2004, 09:25 PM
Aren't there plenty of threads talking about Peja?
annoyablepnoy
09-14-2004, 09:55 PM
miller, kevin willis or olowakandi
GoSACtown
09-14-2004, 10:20 PM
miller, kevin willis or olowakandikevin willis
he has a ring
Sports Illustrated or ESPN The Magazine
:p
LjuboDaMan
09-15-2004, 02:17 AM
Sports Illustrated
V.Lenard ... W. Person ?
Gargamel
09-15-2004, 09:03 AM
Sports Illustrated
V.Lenard ... W. Person ?
Lenard.
Jim Jackson or Jerry Stackhouse?
Ryan@CU
09-15-2004, 11:35 AM
Jim Jackson
Converse All Stars or the Rebok Pumps?
mcsluggo
09-15-2004, 12:03 PM
Converse skate rat skids.
ABA color ball v NBA orange ball
Bballkingsrock
09-15-2004, 05:22 PM
NBA orange ball
Jamal Crawford or Bobby Jackson?
annoyablepnoy
09-15-2004, 05:44 PM
bobby jackson , brian cook or omar cook
Bballkingsrock
09-15-2004, 05:54 PM
Brian Cook
Derrick Coleman or Dariuas Songila?
Heuge
09-15-2004, 06:12 PM
D-Song
Christie or Bowen
annoyablepnoy
09-15-2004, 08:00 PM
christie
karl malone or osmoses malone
BJax24
09-15-2004, 08:33 PM
karl malone.
garnett or jermaine o'neal
PT Cruiser 9ROC
09-15-2004, 08:51 PM
Garnett, no question. He is so much more versatile than anything O'Neal can put out on the court.
Webber (as a rookie) or Amare?
Bballkingsrock
09-15-2004, 09:37 PM
Webber
Kevin Mchale or T-Mac?
Gargamel
09-16-2004, 12:23 AM
Webber
Kevin Mchale or T-Mac?
McHale.
Payton or Kidd at their primes?
Gargamel
09-16-2004, 12:24 AM
Brian Cook
Woah! Brian beat someone?!
Lamar_Odom
09-16-2004, 12:31 AM
Bibby (at his best) vs. Tim Hardaway (top form)
LjuboDaMan
09-16-2004, 12:48 AM
i would say Tim
Chris Bosh -- Todays version of CWEBB ??? hehee
slugking50
09-16-2004, 03:46 AM
i would say Tim
Chris Bosh -- Todays version of CWEBB ??? hehee
Um....... No.
Sarunas "Roony" Marcilonus or Bobby "Bjax" Jackson?
annoyablepnoy
09-16-2004, 08:33 AM
bobby jackson!
reggie miller or diana taurasi
PT Cruiser 9ROC
09-16-2004, 02:33 PM
Tuarasi, if we were talking about who was more of a man. But Reggie is too clutch to pass over.
Garliguy
09-16-2004, 03:17 PM
Cheryl Miller.
Listening to a Brent Musberger telecast or smashing your left hand with a mallet?
Heuge
09-16-2004, 04:03 PM
Brent "I am not Bill Walton" Musberger
Bird V Magic
Bballkingsrock
09-16-2004, 04:47 PM
Magic
Shaq or Hakeem?
Ryan@CU
09-16-2004, 04:56 PM
Shaq
Bill Russell or Hakeem?
annoyablepnoy
09-16-2004, 05:26 PM
bill russel, sue bird or lisa leslie
LjuboDaMan
09-16-2004, 06:44 PM
go LISA
Marko Jaric -- Vladimir Radmanovic ?
annoyablepnoy
09-16-2004, 08:11 PM
marko jaric
chris webber or david robertson
doone
09-16-2004, 11:14 PM
Webber, didn't know a David Robertson played in the NBA. :D
Reggie Miller or MJ? (Clutch-wise)
Mad D
09-16-2004, 11:26 PM
MJ
david webber or matean cleaves
Ryan@CU
09-17-2004, 12:02 AM
Oh man, Matean all the way baby!
"Celtic Pride" or "White Man Can't Jump"
LjuboDaMan
09-17-2004, 02:38 PM
"White Man Can't Jump"
R. Lewis -- Q. Richardson ?
Bballkingsrock
09-17-2004, 03:22 PM
Rashard (he scored 50 points in one game last year!)
Bonzi Wells or Rashard Lewis?
Bballkingsrock
09-18-2004, 11:08 AM
anybody going to anwser?
LjuboDaMan
09-18-2004, 12:18 PM
LEWIS
K mart -- J O'neal ?
Heuge
09-18-2004, 12:36 PM
J Oneil
Better past King who had an incident?
Ricky Barry or Bobby Hurley?
Bballkingsrock
09-18-2004, 02:26 PM
Bobby
Jon Barry or Lucious Harris?
Heuge
09-18-2004, 03:38 PM
Lucious
Ray Allen or Cory Maggette
LjuboDaMan
09-18-2004, 05:56 PM
RAY the rainman
B Wallace -- R Artest ?
Gargamel
09-18-2004, 06:50 PM
RAY the rainman
B Wallace -- R Artest ? Artest, but I'd rather have either of Detroit's Wallaces than Ron.
Chuck "The Rifleman" Connors or Chuck "The Rifleman" Person?
(I vote Ricky Berry over Bobby Hurley, btw.)
Bballkingsrock
09-18-2004, 11:43 PM
conners
Allan Houston or Jamal Mashburn?
c-webb1s#1
09-19-2004, 12:04 AM
Mashburn,Houston is just strictly a good shooter
Nate Archibald or Bob Cousy?
Bballkingsrock
09-19-2004, 12:06 AM
Bob
Jason Kidd or Chris Webber? (when injured)
slugking50
09-19-2004, 05:25 AM
Bob
Jason Kidd or Chris Webber? (when injured)
Webb... Kidd cant shoot. Webb can rebound and shoot.
Jerry Reynolds vs Dick Motta
Bballkingsrock
09-19-2004, 11:30 AM
Jerry
Doug Christie or James Posey?
Ryan@CU
09-19-2004, 12:51 PM
Jerry
Doug Christie or James Posey?
James Posey
Jim Less or Jeff Hornisec?
annoyablepnoy
09-19-2004, 01:32 PM
jeff hornisec!!!
David robinson or olowakandi
Bballkingsrock
09-19-2004, 01:47 PM
David
Carlos Boozer or Elton Brand?
Ryan@CU
09-19-2004, 04:50 PM
Elton Brand
Best half time show: The Kings Kids Break Dance Team or the Dog Races?
Bballkingsrock
09-19-2004, 06:33 PM
Kids Break Dance
Koby or Cryde Drekler?
AriesMar27
09-19-2004, 08:01 PM
neither....
Bibby, J-Will or Nash? man i miss those arguments.
Bballkingsrock
09-19-2004, 08:24 PM
Nash
Kobe or Cryde Drexler? (repeated since didn't get answer)
Ryan@CU
09-19-2004, 10:55 PM
Clyde
Better Defender: Artest or Pippin?
annoyablepnoy
09-19-2004, 11:42 PM
artest!!
uglier person
patrick ewing or sam cassell
slugking50
09-20-2004, 02:02 AM
artest!!
uglier person
patrick ewing or sam cassell
Yuck.. What a choice...Well if I have to choose..... Ill take Cassell. He has 2 rings and doesnt have Ewings ego.
Lionel "L-Train" Simmons vs Walt "The Wizard" & " the Original Mr Most Definately" Williams?
Ryan@CU
09-20-2004, 12:50 PM
artest!!
Artest?? Wow, I'd take Pippin (a young Pip) over artest any day. But maybe that's just me.
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